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Fitted Braided Hoses!

Started by djegiant , Mar 15 2006 05:35 PM

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#1 djegiant

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 05:35 PM

Fitted my goodridge hoses today!

Flushed a total of 1.5L of castrol dot 4 through it and im certain that there is no air in it! thumbsup

Brakes do feel pretty spongy with a slightly lower pressure point that before!

Surely this aint right! :unsure:

Also ABS seems to kick in earlier! :blink:

Anyone have any ideas! :drink:

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#2 chris

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 06:35 PM

Air in ABS control block ...

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#3 djegiant

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 06:42 PM

Bugger!

Anyone know the solution???? :unsure:

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#4 djegiant

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 07:05 PM

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#5 Whiteboy

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 07:08 PM

I believe you need the ignition on and then pump the brakes to clear the abs unit.

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#6 robsrocket

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 08:54 PM

My mate did this to his S1 Exige and was not happy with the end result at all. If i remeber right he had to take the calipers off and turn them upside down or something like that. If you need more help i can get more details of him for you. Robs Rocket

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#7 PaulCP

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 09:08 PM

My mate did this to his S1 Exige and was not happy with the end result at all. If i remeber right he had to take the calipers off and turn them upside down or something like that. If you need more help i can get more details of him for you.

Robs Rocket

That's exactly what the problem is but i'm sure that djegiant has already found that out from the search facility

You need to take the calipers off and turn them through 360 degrees whilst bleeding them

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#8 MAP18W

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 01:30 PM

If you have air in the ABS module there is a procedure on Tech2 to allow you to activate the ABS whilst bleeding the brakes.

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#9 djegiant

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 03:52 PM

Is this a Vauxhall type thing then???? Im in N Wales!

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#10 MAP18W

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 03:55 PM

Is this a Vauxhall type thing then????

Im in N Wales!

Tech2 - Vauxhall Diagnostic Equipment. Any dealer or Vauxhall Specialist.

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#11 csl_freak

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 09:18 PM

Tech2 is the way to go, turning the calipers is an s1 issue only (doesnt apply to s2 or opel/vx). Otherwise quick and dirty solution is to drive the car over a surface (gravel/earth) that makes the abs work, do that a few times, then purge again, and do this until problem solved. Which it will be, eventually..could take just one extra bleed, or 3 or 4... Good luck

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#12 PaulCP

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 09:28 PM

Tech2 is the way to go, turning the calipers is an s1 issue only (doesnt apply to s2 or opel/vx).

OK then i'll have to accept that i don't know what i'm talking about

Even after having the same problem and resolving it by turning the calipers

Oh and following the instructions for fitting braided hoses to an S2.

Sorry for wasting your time. Looks like the Lotus guys don't have a clue either since they all invert their calipers whilst bleeding after fitting braide hoses to S2's.

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 06:48 AM

Tech2 is the way to go, turning the calipers is an s1 issue only (doesnt apply to s2 or opel/vx).

Huh? Come again?

The caliphers are exactly the same on the S1, S2 and VX. And the fronts ones still do NOT have a separate bleed nipple on the inner piston to allow air trapped in it to be bled out.

The only link between the two pistons is through the pipe at the bottom of the calipher and as bubbles rise to the top you'll never get all the air out unless you do the bleed-invert-bleed-upright-bleed sequence.

For just flushing brake fluid this is not an issue as you don't introduce air into the system, but when fitting new brake lines this does need to be done.

Bye, Arno.

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 07:06 AM

Correct, invert the caliper when bleeding thumbsup

The Tech 2 function is the easiest way (but most people don't have access to Ã‚Â£4k worth of computer equipment

) but in all honesty we tend to do the invert trick as we cba to plug the Tech2 in

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#15 djegiant

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 04:31 PM

What a poor caliper design! thumbsdown

Thanks for the advice guys! thumbsup

Used my own little take on that idea in the end and while someone was holding pressure on the pedal I cracked off the unions into the calipers a small amount! Sure enough a small hiss followed by a bit of fluid leakage! thumbsup

Brakes feel much better now!

This method gets rid of all air trapped in the inside chamber! Woo hoo!

Thanks again! thumbsup