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#1 Guy182

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 11:15 AM

well, they've been around for years and they definately know their stuff!

took my car there yesterday to be remapped. the car has an astra VXR turbo and a full milltek with a TMS map.

this gave 253.8 bhp on TMS dyno dynamics rollers at an unknown boost level as i wasnt faxed the boost graphs,
and 224-228bhp on corten millers dyno dynamics rollers with identical intake temps and atmospheric temps holding at 9.5-10psi.

went down to courtenay and got there for approx 9am where they immediately started working on my car after a chat about the car and how its doing, going through previous graphs, and discussing what we hope to achieve.

they checked the boosting of the car and as previously measured, it had 14psi overboost and holding approx 10psi, obviously there is no way a 10psi VXT car is making the claimed 253.8bhp, and as was proved on the independant RR at 224-228bhp.

so the car was put on the rollers for 3 runs and it came out with 232.6bhp (middle line on graph) and the afr was showing it to be lean in the mid range. - regarding the difference between courtenays rr and dyno dynamics one... is 3-4bhp really that much difference?! lol

they then removed the TMS map and put it back to a standard map, the overboost was then approx 13psi and holding approx 9psi as a standard car would do and produced 221.7 bhp (lower line on graph) the extra power over standard will be from the full milltek with 100cell

they then got a piece of bespoke software written and fitted some VXR injectors and ran the car a couple of times again. the over boost was at approx 20psi and held at a good 15-16psi at the top end and gave out 258.7bhp

the gaps between the 3 different maps on the graphs speak for themselves!

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now here comes the good bit.... torque!

the TMS stage 2 was recorded on tms rollers as 270lbft, courtenays rollers it came out at 242.2lbft @ 2657rpm

the standard map gave 211.4bft @2541 rpm

their remap gave over 280lbft initially, but after a chat it was decided to tone the overboost level down a touch to smooth out the initial kick in the back from the torque and give a better curve and more driveability, so we settled for a hefty 269.7lbft from a 20psi overboost. the torque curve is pretty flat which is good, and this peak value was at 4164rpm which is nicely in the mid range.

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the filename made me laugh as this is the VERY LOW TORQUE map.. lol! the high torque one must be crazy!

id like to give out a big thank you to mark and jon at courtenay for the work and all their help, advice, and the technical chats which were educational. very friendly and knowledgable people and they let me observe every single thing that was being done to my car which is always a good thing.

they even stayed behind till gone 7pm to make sure i was 100% happy with the way the car drove on the road, and the rolling road results.

unfortunately the weather was wet, but 4th and 5th gear are just nuts. the car actually scared me at times.
then i managed to hit snow on the way home so all the fun stopped. hopefully have a couple of dry days this week to test the car out properly but i dont think i'm going to be dissapointed!

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 01:18 PM

Great results Guy thumbsup Hmm, I really need to get a VXR turbo, injectors and a new map :D

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 01:21 PM

Excellent Guy, did they pin point any specific problems or were the injectors running out of puff? That's a lot of boost!

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 03:42 PM

Some good results there thumbsup Maybe your car wasn't quite strapped down hard enough at TMS...:unsure:

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 04:01 PM

Good result and nice to see the comparison charts thumbsup

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 05:10 PM

Excellent Guy, did they pin point any specific problems or were the injectors running out of puff?
That's a lot of boost!


hey Tim

all they changed was the software (i witnessed everythign being done) so it was a software problem.


lot of boost? no more than an astra VXR standard?


lol @ jim

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 06:41 PM

As I said before, there was clearly an issue with your map and I offered to sort it but you preferred a refund which I sorted as well. The fact the issue is now sorted is great but using it as a reference is pointless as there was clearly an issue (which we never got to resolve).

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 06:48 PM

I keep forgetting you have the vxr turbo Posted Image pleased you're pleased mate!

Have you thought about additional cooling at all ie uprated intercooler more specifically? Next on my list but am struggling for any info.

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 08:24 PM

As I said before, there was clearly an issue with your map and I offered to sort it but you preferred a refund which I sorted as well. The fact the issue is now sorted is great but using it as a reference is pointless as there was clearly an issue (which we never got to resolve).


ah so now it IS an issue with your superchip maps?

THe only issue is I need to map you back to standard, my theory is that there is a mechancial issue and once that is fixed you'll be fine, leaving you with a free remap.



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Posted 21 March 2007 - 09:56 PM

How can I possibly comment? The had car a problem and you didn't want us to fix it, not much I can do is there?

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 10:15 PM

the car didnt have a problem. the map you put on it was the problem. i dont want you to do anything? no good talking about me not bringing it all the way back again for a second attempt.. the car should have been right before you let it go. thats generaly why a car comes in to be fixed. well its been dry today so managed to get it out for a quick blast seems to be going very well, the power comes in nice and progressive and the driveability is much improved. before, if foot was to the floor and you back off slightly, the power would seem to cut out quickly. it was asif the throttle was a digital switch. lol this obviously made the car sort of jumpy when you wasnt quite at full throttle/letting off a bit now it just seems to perform really well at all throttle positions which is always nice! although im scared im going to get used to the power and have to splash out on a chargecooler.... :roll:

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 12:23 AM

Excellent Guy, did they pin point any specific problems or were the injectors running out of puff?
That's a lot of boost!


oh missed a bit...

injectors were fine.. it was only 225bhp @ 10psi.. think they were running approx 15ms or 19ms (cant quite remember, but was definately nowhere near the 25.6ms limit) duty cycle with the TMS map.

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 05:25 PM

I have been to courtenays numerous times with my 2 previous vx's and the service has always been A1. They are the tuners you can really trust. Imnotworthy

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 12:06 PM

another thanks to mark @ courtenays for the help over the phone diagnosing a vacuum problem. traced it down to the standard recirc valve, replaced it and all sorted back to full boost :D now running 292bhp and 320lbft on the stage 4 with the pro alloy chargecooler.

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 07:13 PM

I was in contact with Mark yesterday and have to say his (and Courtenays) level of customer service was excellent. Alot of other companies could learn alot from them. I shall look forward to meeting the Courtenay boys when I go for CS1 on my VXT




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