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[paulcoop]

Hello im looking to buy a VX220 but already modded to stage 2 - 4. I currently have an Astra VXR stage 3 300bhp, LSD and so on but theres too much power for a front wheel car. I was wondering, due to weight etc would a stage 2 VX220 leave a stage 3 Astra VXR in a straight line? I've never been up against one but i LOVE them and i cant stop looking at buying one. Any info would be great, thanks

Hi AstraVXr and Welcome.
In a straight line a stage 2 vx220 would push the VXR hard due to it having less weight but less power( around 50Bhp)
If you are looking to get a VXR stage 3 "killer" then you would need to look at a stage 4 . Not many stage 3 cars around as most folk jump to stage 4 from 2.
I have a stage 4. Running 295/325 currently. Weight is approx 900kg due to various mods.
I can tell you it feels super, super quick. Especially as you sit so close to the floor.
In a straight line run it will keep up very well with my daily drive. Only falling behind due to slower gear change against a twin clutch box.

Iv also had a evo8 and a evo 10 . the latter running 400/400. They are very very different cars from the vx. A test drive will let you see what all the fuss is about.


Im a bit "fast and furious" so you are in good company

[spuk87]

Is that GTR in your profile pic your daily drive? From power to weight ratio I would've thought the VX should be quicker until after about 100mph (yes I know power to weight isn't everything though)

[techieboy]

No chance. Nev's car when it's fully done might be able to live with one but I doubt very much anything else will. The traction in those defies belief and the deficit only gets worse if they use launch control.

[paulcoop]

Is that GTR in your profile pic your daily drive? From power to weight ratio I would've thought the VX should be quicker until after about 100mph (yes I know power to weight isn't everything though)

Good spot! yes indeed its a Datsun.
Power to weight ratio is very close, GTR almost double weight but very close to double power( 530)
If you use launch control then its no contest.Gear change time in the Datsun When set to "r" is 0.4 of a second.

[J4EY D]

Feck me, this thread is gonna outlast religion Not bad for a newbies first post

[spuk87]

No chance. Nev's car when it's fully done might be able to live with one but I doubt very much anything else will. The traction in those defies belief and the deficit only gets worse if they use launch control.

Is that GTR in your profile pic your daily drive? From power to weight ratio I would've thought the VX should be quicker until after about 100mph (yes I know power to weight isn't everything though)

Good spot! yes indeed its a Datsun.
Power to weight ratio is very close, GTR almost double weight but very close to double power( 530)
If you use launch control then its no contest.Gear change time in the Datsun When set to "r" is 0.4 of a second.

Ahh yes I forgot about the insanely fast gear changes. I was also thinking of the GTR with 480 rather than 530bhp. Plus I was ignoring the launch to be honest, more of an in-gear comparison, but then we are getting into comparing apples and oranges when you put all the 'yeah but ignoring this' rules in

[Seb.F]

All the stage 4 VXT i been looking at has a chargecooler. Question about this if thats ok ladys? My mate said a chargecooler would get hot after so long and will lose power... is this true or is the chargecooler away from the heat?

Chargecooler should be fine.

[SteveA]

All we need is the OP to ask if an S/C VX at 300bhp is faster than a stage 4 turbo and we have a 100% certified troll.

[J4EY D]

All we need is the OP to ask if an S/C VX at 300bhp is faster than a stage 4 turbo and we have a 100% certified troll.

What is quicker?

[Carlos QuinT]

And... for those who can't drive a speedster SC or Turbo... What about differences between these cars? Wich one has more problems (engine troubles) to go up 300hp?

[techieboy]

What is quicker?

I know.

[techieboy]

Wich one has more problems (engine troubles) to go up 300hp?

Z22SE engine is more expensive to get to 300bhp as it needs a rebuild with better pistons and conrods to strengthen it. But that means it's then good for 400bhp.

Z20LET engine can handle 300bhp as standard. Much further than that and it needs rebuilding with stronger internals as well.

[Seb.F]

And... for those who can't drive a speedster SC or Turbo... What about differences between these cars?
Wich one has more problems (engine troubles) to go up 300hp?

The ones without hyperstabilisers and thermonuclear capacitors tend to do worse off.

[vocky]

How come everyones being funny and pretty much taking the p*ss?

you really want to know why, well here is the answer ..........


you asked whether a stage 4 vx220 turbo would be any quicker than a 300bhp astra vxr

astra vxr, weight 1393 Kg, power - 300bhp, power to weight ratio 215.36 / tonne
vx220 turbo, weight 960Kg, power - 300bhp, power to weight ratio 312.5 / tonne


so you might as well asked this question on AON;

will I notice any difference between my tuned 1.8 astra and a tuned astra vxr

astra 1.8, weight 1393Kg, power - 165bhp, power to weight ratio 118.22 / tonne
astra vxr, weight 1393Kg, power - 300bhp, power to weight ratio 215.36 / tonne

because thats what you are trying to compare in your first post, a difference of 97.14 bhp per tonne

I'm sure the answers on AON would have been similar to those posted on here

ps: your astra vxr would need 440bhp to be similar to a vxT stage 4

Edited by vocky, 18 May 2011 - 12:05 PM.

[Mike (Cliffie)]

To OP My VX220 will kick your Astra's arse in a straight line up to 150mph, under braking and absolutely annihilate you in the corners. Has that answered the question without taking the pee?

[Seb.F]

To OP

My VX220 will kick your Astra's arse in a straight line up to 150mph, under braking and absolutely annihilate you in the corners.

Has that answered the question without taking the pee?

To be fair Mike you could probably still do that in a saxo 1.1

[J4EY D]

What is quicker?

I know.

You're also biased As are turbo owners

[The Batman]

iknow as well not because i am biazed but because i have overtaken them on track either that or cliffie has taught me well but in a straight line we will lose

Edited by joe_589, 18 May 2011 - 12:32 PM.

[slindborg]

All the stage 4 VXT i been looking at has a chargecooler. Question about this if thats ok ladys? My mate said a chargecooler would get hot after so long and will lose power... is this true or is the chargecooler away from the heat?

Your mate is wrong plain and simple..... kick him in the bollocks and tell him to get some real data.

[Mike (Cliffie)]

y

but in a straight line we will lose

Against the Astra or the GTR Joe?

There is no way a 260 BHP VX220 will lose a drag race to a 300 BHP Astra.