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[Jezter]

To the OP I think the problem here is that you are doing the equivalent of putting a Picasso or Rembrandt in front of a load of art critics, raving about the frame it's in and then wondering why you are getting some raised eyebrows. The genius of the VX is the chassis and the appreciation of that genius comes from the bends, not the straights. If you buy one, then it's your car and you should get out of it what you want to, but be aware that to ignore the capabilities of the handling of this car, rather than it's straight line performance is to miss the whole point of the car. Once you have driven one, then hopefully all will become clear! I know of a fella who has an S1 Elise (same chassis) who has developed the car extensively. The only thing he's done to the engine however is to improve the oil flow to prevent oil surge/starvation. It still kicks out a heady 118bhp, but nothing this side of a single seater will get anywhere near it on track. The only limit to him going quicker at the moment is that, despite a four point harness, he can't keep himself in his seat on the bends due to the lateral g-force! If you don't need to slow down for the twisty stuff, then acceleration becomes pretty irrelevant. I hope that helps you understand a bit more of the mind set of many of the individuals on here?

[The Batman]

sorry i was talking about a stage 4 vxt! following on from techies and jaey d's convo

Edited by joe_589, 18 May 2011 - 12:39 PM.

[J4EY D]

following on from techies and jaey d's convo

I was just bored at work and fancied starting up another debate on this thread
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We all know supercharging is far superior in every way

[techieboy]

On a head to head between a 300bhp SC vs a 300bhp VXT in a straight line, my money would be on the extra torque of the tubby winning out in the end. Pretty sure there'd be nothing in it to 60mph, maybe the NA might have the edge with less weight and better gear ratios. But to 120mph+, for example, pretty sure el turdo would muscle it's way past. That torque has to count for something, doesn't it?

[J4EY D]

That torque has to count for something, doesn't it?

Those turbo owners are all torque (talk)

[JG]

Actually i'm pretty sure the holes in the Ts torque curve would disadvantage it. couple that with extra weight and the SC would almost certainly be faster. Does it matter though

[The Batman]

i should have bought a turbo oh wait i did... i just chucked the turbo away and bolted on a supercharger

Edited by joe_589, 18 May 2011 - 12:51 PM.

[Andrew aka Stuwy]

maybe im not posh/stuck up enough to buy one but i couldnt give two fucks.

haha posh? you should come to the essex meet

dont see it as people being harsh, just if you ask silly irrelevant questions and you get silly answers..

i personly dont see how putting your foot down from 70/80 till top speed makes a difference and what car your comparing it two...

[Jezter]

I'd have thought that the skill of the driver in applying 300bhp to the tarmac in a 900kg projectile would have had more of a bearing on which out of a VXT/SC was quicker??

[The Batman]

i blame jaey d for this

[J4EY D]

i blame jaey d for this

I say one little thing and everyone gets punished

[Mike (Cliffie)]

On a head to head between a 300bhp SC vs a 300bhp VXT in a straight line, my money would be on the extra torque of the tubby winning out in the end. Pretty sure there'd be nothing in it to 60mph, maybe the NA might have the edge with less weight and better gear ratios. But to 120mph+, for example, pretty sure el turdo would muscle it's way past.

That torque has to count for something, doesn't it?

You have a point Matt, the torque of the Ashtray will come into its own in the higher gears but in a drag race (1/4 mile) the VX220 at 300 BHP will take the spoils especially if it is a tubby as that will also have the torque in spadefuls.

[astravxr]

Still making fun. All i asked is would a stage 4 VXT beat my VXR after 70mph. Im not wanting a VX just cause it might be faster, if i wanted to go that fast in a straight line i'd buy a VXR8, BMW supercharged or something like that. I know that the VX will be way better than my VXR for cornering, braking, feel, 0 - 60 and pretty much everything other than space, boot space etc which i dont care about... the VX vs VXR after 70bhp was just a bonus to have, a nice bonus. Some of you have said come to a meet, i'd love to but if i was spoken to like i am on here i wouldnt just stand there so best not. When i first bought the VXR i didnt have a clue about them, or modding engine wise but i signed up to vxronline.co.uk and got some good advice. Every mod i've done to my VXR has been done by me except the LSD, my mate had to help with that. Even painting i did myself but im obviously selling it very very soon so if i post the specs of the car and a pic could you tell me roughly what its worth? Im usure if i would get more selling the parts separate though.

Astra VXR stage 3
06 plate, Red
56k miles
312bhp

Exterior:
Gloss black pro race 1.2 18"
Turbo groved front discs
Mintex pads
Mirrors, diffuser, grille painted black
Thorney carbon fibre bootstrip
HID lights 6000k
De-badged

Interior:
Eonon dvd player

Engine:
Pannel filter
NGK iridium IX plugs
Forge recirc valve
Bluefine unit stage 3
Miltek race system loud
Forge intercooler

Handling:
Sportline front and dap r's rear
LSD
RARB
Eibach camber bolts

Have all standard parts that came with the car also. How much do you think its worth

Edited by astravxr, 18 May 2011 - 02:05 PM.

[The Batman]

no offence but you are asking a vx220 forum how much an astra is worth? they dont have that much in common but will give ya a fiver for it and will chuck in a 1/4" socket set

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Still making fun.

Not me, I just answered your original question.

Sorry but no idea what the Astra is worth.

[astravxr]

Just wondering as i havent a clue. I've never sold a car private before

[The Batman]

similar spec one

[Seb.F]

similar spec one

Oh yeah I saw that one too!

[Mike (Cliffie)]

similar spec one

Can a mod please ban these un-supportive and frankly un-funny posts. The man asked a reasonable question and deserves a reasonable answer.

[The Batman]

feel free to ban me but can the mods please wait until after i have sold my wheels please