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#61 techieboy

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:49 PM

No holier than thou here. :P

Do I speed? Constantly, on NSL roads. Have I ever gone over 100mph on the road? Guilty as charged. Do I beat myself up for doing it? Nope, not in the slightest. But, I just can't muster up the interest, nor understand the fascination, in straight line speeds as they have no relevance too me or my enjoyment of the car on the road and are only fractionally more important on the track.

I've no idea what my SC'd VX is capable of from a standing start to some arbitrary speed (that might have been an indicator of a cars performance 30+ years ago but has little bearing nowadays) nor do I ever plan to find out what it's top speed is. I've got too much respect for the mechanicals to ever bother trying and not enough interest in some twat in a [insert name of any warm/hot hatch, executive express or supercar] to want to bother racing him away from a set of lights. Miraculously, my manhood seems to have remained largely intact, despite a Nissan Micra "beating" me away from a set of lights on a dual carriageway yesterday. :blush:

Even the most cursory of searches on the internet will supply the allnon-important 0-60 times and will clearly show even a factory fresh 197bhp VXT is going to muller a 300bhp FWD hatch to 60mph and probably to 100mph before the extra power of said superduper hot hatch comes into play. Even a lowly 144bhp NA is allegedly capable of 0-60 in 5.6 secs.

The thing is, 197bhp (as if that's any indication of performance) just isn't going to cut it in the all important pub/shopping centre car park p!ssing contest when your mate's boasting about his 300bhp 1.5 tonne hatch and your mums VW Golf has 180bhp. I'd just rather people looked beyond the numbers and actually tried the car (in all it's guises) before deciding they absolutely, positively, beyond any shadow of doubt, instantly need a 1,000bhp Stage 66.6 conversion in order to make any progress on the road. Learning how to drive this kind of car well and how to make safe but quick progress on the road without attracting too much attention, is probably worth an extra 100bhp but unfortunately earns no credit in the car park.

But, hey, that's just me. :wacko:

P.S. I stand by my original advice to get an Evo (or something of it's ilk). Personally, I think the VX corners better but it makes you think and work properly for it. It's most definitely not a throw it at a corner any which way and all the trick bits will get me around it kind of car like an Evo and therefore may feel slower.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:59 PM



. Learning how to drive this kind of car well and how to make safe but quick progress on the road without attracting too much attention, is probably worth an extra 100bhp


:yeahthat:........:D just the bloody itb's who are noisy..;)

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 05:00 PM

P.S. I stand by my original advice to get an Evo (or something of it's ilk). Personally, I think the VX corners better but it makes you think and work properly for it. It's most definitely not a throw it at a corner any which way and all the trick bits will get me around it kind of car like an Evo and therefore may feel slower.


Indeed, the VX is for people who can drive (on the track), the Evo is for people that want to be able to drive :lol:

At least that's how I always teased my mate anyway.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 05:13 PM

Hi astravxr. I think your initial post came across a little too 'need for speed' ish for some :P If it's your intention to attend late night race meets on public roads in blinged up motors, then the vx isn't the most appropriate of cars. ;) Personally, I think you will be (pleasantly) shocked by the raw sensations you get from a vx when you put your foot down. The noise (assuming you don't have a standard exhaust), and the feedback you get from the car are nothing like you'll get from your astra - as has been said, an astra is a rep-mobile which has been made to go fast but a vx has been designed from the ground up as a proper sports car. I took my brother in law (who has a modified civic) out in my stage 2 tubby for a quick blast and when he got out he was shaking poof this came mainly from the cornering speeds (I could see him instinctively going for the brakes when approaching a corner). So while you may initially be thinking about straight line speed, I doubt it'll take you long before really appreciating the cornering abilities of these cars. You will really only know if one is for you by going for a ride in one - but remember, these aren't astras. The heater is shite and de-misting the windscreen can take an age in winter. You have to show real respect in wet / slippery conditions and the lack of creature comforts means that some people just can't live with them on a day to day basis. Added to that, many of them have issues with flaking paint and all manner of other TADS - you need to consider these too if you're coming from a 'run of the mill' motor.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 07:05 PM

Personally, I think you will be (pleasantly) shocked by the raw sensations you get from a vx when you put your foot down. The noise (assuming you don't have a standard exhaust), and the feedback you get from the car are nothing like you'll get from your astra - as has been said, an astra is a rep-mobile which has been made to go fast but a vx has been designed from the ground up as a proper sports car.


apart from they shoved the rep-mobile 2.2 in them :P

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 07:16 PM

Hi astravxr.

I think your initial post came across a little too 'need for speed' ish for some :P If it's your intention to attend late night race meets on public roads in blinged up motors, then the vx isn't the most appropriate of cars. ;)

Personally, I think you will be (pleasantly) shocked by the raw sensations you get from a vx when you put your foot down. The noise (assuming you don't have a standard exhaust), and the feedback you get from the car are nothing like you'll get from your astra - as has been said, an astra is a rep-mobile which has been made to go fast but a vx has been designed from the ground up as a proper sports car. I took my brother in law (who has a modified civic) out in my stage 2 tubby for a quick blast and when he got out he was shaking poof this came mainly from the cornering speeds (I could see him instinctively going for the brakes when approaching a corner). So while you may initially be thinking about straight line speed, I doubt it'll take you long before really appreciating the cornering abilities of these cars.

You will really only know if one is for you by going for a ride in one - but remember, these aren't astras. The heater is shite and de-misting the windscreen can take an age in winter. You have to show real respect in wet / slippery conditions and the lack of creature comforts means that some people just can't live with them on a day to day basis. Added to that, many of them have issues with flaking paint and all manner of other TADS - you need to consider these too if you're coming from a 'run of the mill' motor.


:yeahthat: Sums it up nicely.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 12:22 AM

No holier than thou here. :P

Do I speed? Constantly, on NSL roads. Have I ever gone over 100mph on the road? Guilty as charged. Do I beat myself up for doing it? Nope, not in the slightest. But, I just can't muster up the interest, nor understand the fascination, in straight line speeds as they have no relevance too me or my enjoyment of the car on the road and are only fractionally more important on the track.

I've no idea what my SC'd VX is capable of from a standing start to some arbitrary speed (that might have been an indicator of a cars performance 30+ years ago but has little bearing nowadays) nor do I ever plan to find out what it's top speed is. I've got too much respect for the mechanicals to ever bother trying and not enough interest in some twat in a [insert name of any warm/hot hatch, executive express or supercar] to want to bother racing him away from a set of lights. Miraculously, my manhood seems to have remained largely intact, despite a Nissan Micra "beating" me away from a set of lights on a dual carriageway yesterday. :blush:

Even the most cursory of searches on the internet will supply the allnon-important 0-60 times and will clearly show even a factory fresh 197bhp VXT is going to muller a 300bhp FWD hatch to 60mph and probably to 100mph before the extra power of said superduper hot hatch comes into play. Even a lowly 144bhp NA is allegedly capable of 0-60 in 5.6 secs.

The thing is, 197bhp (as if that's any indication of performance) just isn't going to cut it in the all important pub/shopping centre car park p!ssing contest when your mate's boasting about his 300bhp 1.5 tonne hatch and your mums VW Golf has 180bhp. I'd just rather people looked beyond the numbers and actually tried the car (in all it's guises) before deciding they absolutely, positively, beyond any shadow of doubt, instantly need a 1,000bhp Stage 66.6 conversion in order to make any progress on the road. Learning how to drive this kind of car well and how to make safe but quick progress on the road without attracting too much attention, is probably worth an extra 100bhp but unfortunately earns no credit in the car park.

But, hey, that's just me. :wacko:

P.S. I stand by my original advice to get an Evo (or something of it's ilk). Personally, I think the VX corners better but it makes you think and work properly for it. It's most definitely not a throw it at a corner any which way and all the trick bits will get me around it kind of car like an Evo and therefore may feel slower.


Lol that was a funny read. Car parks? i remember those days. Like i said im a guy who likes fast cars in a straight line, not so much off the mark. Im not going to be flying around roundabouts and so on although it would be nice as i couldnt do it in my "warm hatch" lol. I think im going to give one of these cars a test drive, just a standard one... see how it drives as i do love them. Dont know how many times i have to say though, im not a boy racer i just like to go fast sometimes................................................ In a straight line, sorry sir. Has no one come against a car in a straight line in their VXT? I've got my eye on a stage 4 VXT and it looks stunning, will it be as fast as my VXR after 80mph though? This car has everything i want and im not a luxury person who likes air-con, dvd players etc, just not sure if it will be faster than my VXR after 70 - 80mph

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 01:30 AM

Im not going to be flying around roundabouts and so on although it would be nice as i couldnt do it in my "warm hatch"


It's not all about high speed!

It is quite possible to potentially spin a VX at 20mph on a roundabout. :rolleyes:

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 02:12 AM

Has no one come against a car in a straight line in their VXT? I've got my eye on a stage 4 VXT and it looks stunning, will it be as fast as my VXR after 80mph though? This car has everything i want and im not a luxury person who likes air-con, dvd players etc, just not sure if it will be faster than my VXR after 70 - 80mph


OK, I'll try and spell it out for you.

If your not interested in racing, not interested in being actually faster than anyone else (and of course your not because you wont be racing anyone) then even a standard N/A will give you the sensation of speed that you seek.

If you really think you need to be doing in excess of 80mph to feel your going fast... try driving your astra at 40mph with your head stuck out the window. Or try driving a vx then you will feel like your going fast all the time.

IMHO you don't really seem to know what your talking about, neither do you really know what your asking,

Like faster between 80-90? or perhaps 80 to max speed?

What sort of straight line? like a 50mile straingh road? or perhaps more like a quarter mile rolling start? not boy racer like at all. for the record a standard vxt would destroy your 300bhp astra vxr in a quarter mile.

Truth be told if you want my opinion, you want someone on this forum to tell you that your astra will be faster in a straight line than a VXT, even one person and you will be happy so you can go back to your mate with the VX and say even the people on the VX forum say I'd be faster......

So if it make you feel any better I can edit this post to say:
"Wow you have a 300BHP VXR Astra! Your so lucky, that would destroy a stage 2 VX220 turbo above 80, infact you know what those astra's are so amazing I'm going to sell my VX tomorrow and sup the Shite out of an astra so i can be quick at speeds over 80 too"
just drop me a PM before you show your mate the forum and I'll change it for you.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 06:29 AM

Don't buy a VX, it'll be one less on the road before the years out. Then again it'll make all our cars that little bit more expensive and exclusive.....;-D

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 07:05 AM

Don't buy a VX, it'll be one less on the road before the years out. Then again it'll make all our cars that little bit more expensive and exclusive.....;-D


Rofl, a few weeks on the site and this guy's already got the idea! thumbsup

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:14 AM

Get a flux capacitor fitted and you should see what it can do over 80! There's a thread on here with one that has one fitted!

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 09:32 AM

I had a 500ish Skyline R32 GTR before getting my VXT. In a straight line it's the GTR that will win and possibly even in the corners. BUT and it's a big but. It could only do that for a short time before the tyres/brakes were overheated or something broke because it's a 1.5ton massive lard arse. In the VX I love the way I feel connected with the road and everything has a subtle deftness of touch. 200% more satisfying and you also don't have that O'god it's going to explode feeling every time you get in it.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 09:34 AM

you also don't have that O'god it's going to explode feeling every time you get in it.

Speak for yourself. :o :wacko: :( :blush: :lol:

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 11:47 AM


Has no one come against a car in a straight line in their VXT? I've got my eye on a stage 4 VXT and it looks stunning, will it be as fast as my VXR after 80mph though? This car has everything i want and im not a luxury person who likes air-con, dvd players etc, just not sure if it will be faster than my VXR after 70 - 80mph


OK, I'll try and spell it out for you.

If your not interested in racing, not interested in being actually faster than anyone else (and of course your not because you wont be racing anyone) then even a standard N/A will give you the sensation of speed that you seek.

If you really think you need to be doing in excess of 80mph to feel your going fast... try driving your astra at 40mph with your head stuck out the window. Or try driving a vx then you will feel like your going fast all the time.

IMHO you don't really seem to know what your talking about, neither do you really know what your asking,

Like faster between 80-90? or perhaps 80 to max speed?

What sort of straight line? like a 50mile straingh road? or perhaps more like a quarter mile rolling start? not boy racer like at all. for the record a standard vxt would destroy your 300bhp astra vxr in a quarter mile.

Truth be told if you want my opinion, you want someone on this forum to tell you that your astra will be faster in a straight line than a VXT, even one person and you will be happy so you can go back to your mate with the VX and say even the people on the VX forum say I'd be faster......

So if it make you feel any better I can edit this post to say:
"Wow you have a 300BHP VXR Astra! Your so lucky, that would destroy a stage 2 VX220 turbo above 80, infact you know what those astra's are so amazing I'm going to sell my VX tomorrow and sup the Shite out of an astra so i can be quick at speeds over 80 too"
just drop me a PM before you show your mate the forum and I'll change it for you.


This has really pissed me off, im sorry but i signed up here for a bit of advice because i was looking to BUY one not brag to my mate as you say, where the fcuk did that come from? I dont have a mate with a VX220 otherwise i would just find a private road and do little tests against our cars. So yes edit your post, maybe edit your fcuking attatude because all i wanted was advice. This has nothing to do with my car being better as me and my car have come to an end and its time to buy a new car... the VXT was first on my list as i've loved them for years. Maybe this will make you feel better, i hate the handling of the VXR, it understeers all the time even with LSD, RARB and springs fitted, it has too much power for a FWD, i know that a VXT will completely wipe the floor with my VXR on corners and from a standing start no doubt but thats not the question im wanting to know. What i'll do is start again and try make it easier for you to understand.

I am not a boy racer who goes to car parks and so on, yes maybe 7 year ago. I rarely go on a track but i suppose if i did have a VXT i would want to go on more. I do love going fast in my cars when the time is right, i like to give the car a blast down the country roads now and then and a lot of the time traveling home as its a quiet road. On motorways etc if i see a car that wants to have "a play" then i will put my foot down a bit so see the outcome.
All i am wanting to know is would a stage 4 VXT manage to beat (i wont say my VXR as i might get wrong) something like a MK2 RS or Evo FQ360 for example, from 70/80mph onwards? Im sure one of you lot with a VXT has sat next to someone rolling start and gave it a little blast

Edited by astravxr, 17 May 2011 - 11:49 AM.


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 11:53 AM

this has been a bit of a bad start for ya buddy hasnt it.. the vx isnt for drag but can still do some good times and if you are thinking of a stage4 then i imagine it will beat an evo on a private road ;) i stand by my post whereever it was with go get a testdrive in a standard vxt, a stage 2 and a stage 4 thumbsup be careful if you buy one though thumbsup

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 11:56 AM

this has been a bit of a bad start for ya buddy hasnt it.. the vx isnt for drag but can still do some good times and if you are thinking of a stage4 then i imagine it will beat an evo on a private road ;)

i stand by my post whereever it was with go get a testdrive in a standard vxt, a stage 2 and a stage 4 thumbsup

be careful if you buy one though thumbsup


Just had a quick look on the net for garages selling any VX220's around my area and theres only 1, its a 2.2 though :(

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 11:57 AM



i stand by my post whereever it was with go get a testdrive in a standard vxt, a stage 2 and a stage 4 thumbsup

be careful if you buy one though thumbsup

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Test drive

Do you like the pace?
If Yes
Then buy
Else
Dont Buy
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 11:57 AM

my 2.2 will nearly have 400bhp hopefully so dont take the p*ss :lol:

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 11:59 AM

Way to welcome a new member by the way... Muppets :blink:




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