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[siztenboots]

c3 more for turbo diesel DPF ?

[slindborg]

This is from the wavy arms, so I take almost everything with a fist of salt.

 

They do suggest some Selenia Abarth spec 5/40 or 10/50 or 10/60 oils, with no actual spec other than an abarth approval number etc... twats.

Its just a 1400 T-Jet engine

[fezzasus]

You're fine using A3/B4. Most API claims will be SL on these oils but that's because it's simple to add that claim on rather than because it means anything.

Edited by fezzasus, 30 July 2014 - 12:11 PM.

[haggi961]

Just bumping this thread to see if there's been much change in oils since 2011. Is the Motul 300v oil still up there?

[fezzasus]

Just bumping this thread to see if there's been much change in oils since 2011. Is the Motul 300v oil still up there?

 

Only just seen this. Mosul 300V is still the best of the competition oils (based on my testing) however it will be compromised for day to day use as it isn't designed for the fuel dilution and water content that occurs with stop start use. If you're tracking regularly and willing to change oil often then use it, otherwise I would suggest Shell Helix Ultra based on the price vs. specs. (despite not being produced by my company!)

[thejoaoserra]

Hello,

Just read this topic and I'd like to know how does Liqui Moly [color=rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto, sans-serif;]Leichtlauf race tech GT1 10W-60 compare with [/color][color=rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;]Fuchs Titan sypersyn [/color]

[color=rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;]and Shell helix ultra[/color][color=rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto, sans-serif;]?[/color]

www.texoleo.com/product/liqui-moly-leichtlauf-race-tech-gt1-10w-60-5l
www.texoleo.com/product/shell-helix-ultra-racing-10w-60-1l

[color=rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto, sans-serif;]I'm from Portugal, hence the 10W60 viscosity. [/color]

Thank you!

Edited by thejoaoserra, 03 February 2015 - 11:48 PM.

[slindborg]

Mr fez, is there anything to 'stop' a company claiming an oil has a particular classification? Ie claiming a C3 on 10/50(or60) when just about all c3 comes in 0 or 5/30....

[fezzasus]

Are they claiming or recommending?

 

If they are claiming then refer them to VLS - http://www.ukla-vls.org.uk/

Edited by fezzasus, 24 February 2015 - 05:09 PM.

[slindborg]

Grey area in that respect.... They say to use their particular brand/mix of oil but say alternatives can be used of c3 spec which are all thin compared to their one.

[fezzasus]

is this an oil manufacturer or OEM?

 

Technical ACEA C3 only limit viscosity grade to SAE J300 limits, which currently range from 0W-8 to 25W-60, however do limit HTHS to >3.5. No upper limit so higher viscosity grades are fine.

Edited by fezzasus, 25 February 2015 - 02:38 PM.

[fezzasus]

FYI, full specifications can be found here: http://www.infineum.com/media/16389/ACEA-2012-Oil-sequences.pdf 

 

I don't think we can distribute J300 specs, but you'll be able to find older versions on google.

[slindborg]

Its this

http://www.pli-petro...ENIA&idLingua=2

http://flcf.onion.it...13_scat_ENG.pdf

http://flcf.onion.it...13_stec_ENG.pdf

 

lack of ACEAACSAA rating, but in the hand book it states "this, or anything else C3"

[fezzasus]

Strange one. That doesn't have any ACEA claims, at a guess this will be because it's based on old technology which once upon a time could claim C3, other it's full on pikey and they didn't want to claim ACEA because it's specific to Abarth

[fezzasus]

if they've specified the oil by brand then you could get them for monopolistic practices, which is what's currently happening to another manufacturer.

[slindborg]

Interesting. Yes the brand is specified with the only alternative being the 'must be c3'

[fezzasus]

Hello,

Just read this topic and I'd like to know how does Liqui Moly [color=rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto, sans-serif;]Leichtlauf race tech GT1 10W-60 compare with [/color][color=rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;]Fuchs Titan sypersyn [/color]

[color=rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;]and Shell helix ultra[/color][color=rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto, sans-serif;]?[/color]

www.texoleo.com/product/liqui-moly-leichtlauf-race-tech-gt1-10w-60-5l
www.texoleo.com/product/shell-helix-ultra-racing-10w-60-1l

[color=rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto, sans-serif;]I'm from Portugal, hence the 10W60 viscosity. [/color]

Thank you!

 

out of the three, i would take the Shell. This is because they are more conservative with their claims so the oil must perform better than others for the same performance claim.

[slindborg]

I used the shell 10/60 in my 2.2 in the UK for a few years (got a lod of it suspiciously cheap ) and it was fine

[badgerade]

Tom - what's the current favourite 5w40? Still the Fuchs SuperSyn from Opie?  

[siztenboots]

Petronas Syntium 3000

- SAE 5W-40, ACEA A3/B3/B4, API SM/CF, BMW LL-01, GM-LL-B-025, MB-Approval 229.5, PORSCHE, VW 502.00-505.00

 

 

 

my favourite fully synth though is from carparts4less (eurocarparts) is only £12.49 5 Litre

 

TRIPLE QX 5w40 Fully Synthetic

- API SN/CF, ACEA A3, B3, B4, VW502.00, 505.00, MB229.3, BMW LL-01, Renault RN700/710

[fezzasus]

Tom - what's the current favourite 5w40? Still the Fuchs SuperSyn from Opie?  

 

This - http://www.opieoils....engine-oil.aspx