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[Exmantaa]

Lost my measurements, so need some quick info on the dipstick length for a Saab sump. And more particular how far the dipstick sticks out of the tube below; the length from bottom outer tube till the tip end. (only have a Z2.2 dipstick and know this is a bit to short for the Saab sump...) Thxs

[The Batman]

You want the same dipstick and tube as the standard vx220 one Me and Vocky both have this done and measured the oil going in perfectly

[Exmantaa]

Hmmm, I remember that the Saab sticked (about 1cm?) deeper out of the tube than my VX one, so by using the std VX stick you will overfill the Saab sump by a fair amount. Not such a good idea... Did you allign the small vent hole in the VX stick with the Saab sump hole? (Or drill a new vent position.) How much oil went into your VX/Saab engine?

Edited by Exmantaa, 15 August 2011 - 11:50 AM.

[FLD]

I have both. I'll measure up later if I remember. If I dont give me a poke!

[AstonVauxhall]

I have a 2.2 dipstick and matching tube if anyone wanted them measuring? They're both new so it'll save someone getting oil all over their fingers.

[Exmantaa]

Pic of Joe from an Astra/vectra vs the VX dipstick topic: (What is what Joe? My VX looks like the bottom one )


Like to know how that should be for a Saab sump... And think outer tubes should be the same, but better measure the length from that seat bulge too.

Edited by Exmantaa, 15 August 2011 - 12:31 PM.

[The Batman]

The bottom one is Vx. It's easy to measure as I know the Saab is a 7L sump so put 5.5L in and the standard z22se and b207 measures full. Obviously incorrect and when I put the Vx one in it measured full at 7L which makes me believe that it's the angle of the engine in a vectra/Saab the engine must sit differently therefore registering a different amount.

[Exmantaa]

Different sump angle is a good one. But is 7 liter correct? I read 6.5 (US?) quart for the LSJ block, so that converts to 6.15 liter? (Saab 207/Z20NET also state 6liter for oil change...)

[Exmantaa]

According manual a Z22Se should have 5liter incl. filter change (actually 4.75L according VX service note.) Saab sump = +1l, so 5.75-6 liter max!

[vocky]

Saab dipstick tube is the same depth as the Astra/Vectra dipstick tube I keep the vx220 dipstick tube with the Saab sump so that there is more oil in the engine, the full sump level is still below the conrods so won't make any difference to the engines performance. Running with 7 litres prolongs the oil life and will help to avoid the serious issue of running too low on oil

[vocky]

According manual a Z22Se should have 5liter incl. filter change (actually 4.75L according VX service note.)
Saab sump = +1l, so 5.75-6 liter max!

vx220 needs 6 litres from totally empty

[FLD]

My saab one protrudes 35mm out the bottom of the tube. Further than the pic of Joes. My VX one protrudes 8mm. Does that help or do you need a pic?

[vocky]

I just changed the oil in my 2.2 saab engine - vx220 dipstick tube. 6.4 litres to full mark I also removed the dipstick tube and found the vx220 breather hole to be approx 1.8mm, I checked a Saab dipstick tube and found it had a 5mm breather hole, so I drilled out the vx220 tube to 5mm. So as well as the stupid z22se 'channel' in the sump the small dipstick breather hole might also cause wrong readings

[Exmantaa]

My saab one protrudes 35mm out the bottom of the tube. Further than the pic of Joes. My VX one protrudes 8mm.

Does that help or do you need a pic?

35mm??? That is really a lot and don't remember that my LSJ/Saab was that long...

Just checked my VX tube and that is about 7-8mm, like in the pic above. 27mm extra for the Saab sounds a lot, but we better compare that to the longer Vectra Z22 stick. I guess the Vectra one in the pic protrudes about 15-16mm, so Saab is then some 20mm longer. (due to different sump and the angled dipstick mounting)

[FLD]

Here it is. B207L vs Z22SE.

[smiley]

Kicking this based om Martins oil issue topic.

 

I am also using the Z22SE dipstick in my oem B207

I was told to fill up to the first notch from the bottom. Martin is using the middle of the notches. (not much difference)

If i translate that distance from the Z22SE dipstick, it's a bout 3 cm from the bottom of the dipstick.

If i then apply that to the saab dipstick, i end up quite high.

 

Are we sure we are not overfilling?

 

 

 

Edited by smiley, 01 October 2015 - 11:59 AM.

[fezzasus]

FYI. Difference between top to bottom for a typical dip stick measurement is 1 L

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Does anyone no how much more the Saab engine/sump leans compared with z22se and which way

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 01 October 2015 - 12:50 PM.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

When we dropped the oil in artic monkeys car when we were getting fountains of oil out the dip stick We dropped approx 5 3/4 litre of oil out And replaced it with 5 litres and the fountains of oil stopped and we were just getting a lifting dip stick

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Also worth noting the oil that came out did seem very watery and thin But the oil was warm/hot Didn't expect it to be that thin