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[Glambee]

Do you have an idea of the cost of an Adaptronic keeping the electronic throttle control?

[Duncan VXR]

Do you have an idea of the cost of an Adaptronic keeping the electronic throttle control?

Yep ecu is exactly twice the price and then there would be the extra cost of making it work, poss woring work def more expensive than the current solution but if someone wants it then happy to support their needs

DG

[Glambee]

that's currently at the bottom end of my wishlist, but maybe one day :-)

[MrSimba]

Been over at Dave Harwicks today working on the cable TB solution for the car. OE pedal travel is 2 1/4" at the pedal and 1" at the end of the pedal bar, & the TB we are using has travel from idle to WOT of 1 3/4" so we need 1" travel to equate to 1 3/4" at the TB, this is why some cable conversions have been left with a very long travel as they use 1 3/4 at bar - to - 1 3/4"at TB, but we want exactly OE in travel & feel. Dave's engineering a very trick lever arrangement which will have 5 holes very much like an ARB with the middle hole being 'OE' so same travel, same pressure, but then you'll be able to choose 2 shorter than OE serttings or 2 longer than OE settings to suit Dave's a very modest but incredibly skilled man!

[Nev]

Sounds like a lever with different ratios - a great idea, good one Dave

[MrSimba]

Exactly that Nev

[MrSimba]

Dave's sent me the final design of the cable throttle conversion

Really have to say that Dave has done an amazing job here, adjustable travel / start - end stops, and all within the physical space the 'OE' throttle assembly took

For the number of people interested now in going to standalone ECU's this is going to be a massive help! Many thanks again Dave!

[luke.]

[Nev]

When you see great inovative stuff like this coming out of the UK, it makes me wince about our lost engineering heritage. Britain started the entire industrial revolution, yet within 200 years has given up on it and now we are a nation of b/wankers, beauraucrats, IT shisters etc etc. I am fully expecting the UK to drop to 2nd world status once the Chinkys, Indians and South Americans get fully up to speed in another 25 years. We won't have any skills left in the country like Dave's and will be even more reliant on other countries skills than we are now If I knew someone like Dave near me in Bristol, I love to do an "apprenticiship" with him, learn to TIG weld, metalwork, use CAD, learn how to fuse different design concepts together to make things that work. Since Nipper is finished now (apart from a new ECU and some running gear parts) I've been thinking about designing/building my own race car, however I know enough to know that I need to learn a lot of basic fabrication skills, not to mention the expense of buying all the metal working kit and having enough contacts to fabricate specialist stuff up for me.

Edited by Nev, 02 October 2012 - 06:52 AM.

[JG]

When you see great inovative stuff like this coming out of the UK, it makes me wince about our lost engineering heritage. Britain started the entire industrial revolution, yet within 200 years has given up on it and now we are a nation of b/wankers, beauraucrats, IT shisters etc etc. I am fully expecting the UK to drop to 2nd world status once the Chinkys, Indians and South Americans get fully up to speed in another 25 years. We won't have any skills left in the country like Dave's and will be even more reliant on other countries skills than we are now

I work in a technology company, the innovation and skill of which is unequalled anywhere in the world.

The above is very daily mail view.

And if we could avoid racist slurs on here, that would be even better

[luke.]

I really enjoyed doing welding. Not so keen on oxy acetylene but mig and tig welding. Even did blacksmithing which was very old school!! I agree with nev though all of this stuff is almost a lost art. It was bound To go that way though with the availability of cheaper stuff off the shelf rather than stuff that's fabricated and possibly doesn't fit as well. But as jg says its not completely dead. It's just not the main thing anymore. You have to think that the world has moved on to a certain extent so there isnt a demand where Everyman and his dog needing to be a tradesman.

Edited by luke., 02 October 2012 - 07:13 AM.

[JG]

Dave's sent me the final design of the cable throttle conversion

Really have to say that Dave has done an amazing job here, adjustable travel / start - end stops, and all within the physical space the 'OE' throttle assembly took

For the number of people interested now in going to standalone ECU's this is going to be a massive help! Many thanks again Dave!

It looks like he has managed to engineer in some mechanical advantage into the system. . One of the problems with the cables on the early tms cable cars was that it took quite a lot of effort to press the pedal, not sure if it was ever fixed

[MrSimba]

It looks like he has managed to engineer in some mechanical advantage into the system. . One of the problems with the cables on the early tms cable cars was that it took quite a lot of effort to press the pedal, not sure if it was ever fixed

Exactly this

It's taken Dave a lot of hard work to solve the problem of the 'long travel' that cable throttle VX's have suffered from, but here now is an adjustable solution

Edited by MrSimba, 02 October 2012 - 08:06 AM.

[vocky]

A lovely engineered solution, but I prefer the longer travel from the simplistic webcon version

One of the problems with the cables on the early tms cable cars was that it took quite a lot of effort to press the pedal, not sure if it was ever fixed

sorted

Edited by vocky, 02 October 2012 - 08:14 AM.

[moospeed]

When you see great inovative stuff like this coming out of the UK, it makes me wince about our lost engineering heritage. Britain started the entire industrial revolution, yet within 200 years has given up on it and now we are a nation of b/wankers, beauraucrats, IT shisters etc etc. I am fully expecting the UK to drop to 2nd world status once the Chinkys, Indians and South Americans get fully up to speed in another 25 years. We won't have any skills left in the country like Dave's and will be even more reliant on other countries skills than we are now

Alf Garnett !!! where have you been hiding for the past 30 years. Johnny Foreigner up to speed in another 25 years? Seems you really have been in hiding.

[siztenboots]

A lovely engineered solution, but I prefer the longer travel from the simplistic webcon version

One of the problems with the cables on the early tms cable cars was that it took quite a lot of effort to press the pedal, not sure if it was ever fixed

sorted

thats good , as before you needed satnav to get from closed to wide open throttle, it was such a long travel

[MrSimba]

All done, fitted & adjusted, & sitting on a trailer ready to go to EFi for the Adaptronic ECU & mapping

[luke.]

[VXT Tim]

How long til it's done Si?

Edited by VXT Tim, 04 October 2012 - 08:26 AM.

[Nev]

All done, fitted & adjusted, & sitting on a trailer ready to go to EFi for the Adaptronic ECU & mapping

Coolio, am getting proper excited for you Simon. Have you decided what your 'brief' will be when you tell Chris how you want it mapped (re: max boost/power)?