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#2021 siztenboots

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:57 AM

mikes got a full roll cage, so a roof rack wouldn't be a problem

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:01 AM

Get a roof box you could keep a spare set of wheels in it.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:15 AM



Where was the zorst from anyhoo.....?


Custom built by a company in St Albans.


looks good, although surprised nobody has comented on the configuration yet


Please elaborate.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:38 AM

Wasn't it collective wisdom that SC's prefered a 4-1 set up? Eg Nick's post here:

Eg: http://www.vx220.org...=60#entry588448

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:42 AM

i thought that a 4-2-1 was better midrange

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 01:23 PM

Wasn't it collective wisdom that SC's prefered a 4-1 set up? Eg Nick's post here:

Eg: http://www.vx220.org...=60#entry588448

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More to do with space I would imagine. I left the exhaust build to somebody who knows better than me.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 01:31 PM

I prefer the old 442 with Beckham up front ..........

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 01:39 PM




Where was the zorst from anyhoo.....?


Custom built by a company in St Albans.


looks good, although surprised nobody has comented on the configuration yet


Please elaborate.


That's indeed an "interesting" set-up of cyl 1+3 and 2+4...
I'm no expert in headers pairing, but most 4cyl headers are paired 1+4 & 2+3 to distribute the pulses evenly over the secondary pipes. Yours is like a "big-banger", but you also have big long primaries...
(The OEM cast mani, 1+2 and 3+4 is more about space saving but in the end has the same sequence pairing as yours.)

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 01:43 PM

is it going ( 1-3-4-2 ) bang+bang/suck+suck . I don't know the exhaust timings on the cams to know what overlap is there

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 01:48 PM

With the db levels down to 96bd with a 3 inch system, I would imagine it is doing it's job very well.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:04 PM

thats wrong, it would be ( 1-3-4-2 ) red into collector 1 , blue into collector 2 , to merge them in collector 3

=1===3== =4===2==
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:15 PM

With the db levels down to 96bd with a 3 inch system, I would imagine it is doing it's job very well.


That's not the manifold and downpipe reducing sound that would be the backbox and tailpipes

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:24 PM

The car is awesome, really strong and handling beautifully. You can go in so committed and know exactly what it will do and how it will react.

We used the new Kumhos in the damp and wet and I was really impressed with the grip levels.

The new exhaust is something to behold and the db levels are down to 96db and I am pretty sure there is no loss of power. The manifold is beautiful.

We have to beat Ronnie in the last four rounds to stand any chance of the championship.


What spring rates and roll bars are you using and also toe and camber is interesting.
Thank you in advance.

BR, Per

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:33 PM


The car is awesome, really strong and handling beautifully. You can go in so committed and know exactly what it will do and how it will react.

We used the new Kumhos in the damp and wet and I was really impressed with the grip levels.

The new exhaust is something to behold and the db levels are down to 96db and I am pretty sure there is no loss of power. The manifold is beautiful.

We have to beat Ronnie in the last four rounds to stand any chance of the championship.


What spring rates and roll bars are you using and also toe and camber is interesting.
Thank you in advance.

BR, Per


You have a PM.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:35 PM


With the db levels down to 96bd with a 3 inch system, I would imagine it is doing it's job very well.


That's not the manifold and downpipe reducing sound that would be the backbox and tailpipes


What I mean is we would know if we had exhaust pulses meeting due to manifold design and we would be making scooby type noises and would not be as low as 96db.

Also lengthening the system makes a difference in noise.

Edited by Cliffie, 10 July 2012 - 08:35 PM.


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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:42 PM

I reckon it would have made you louder but due to the mod to the tailpipe this has reduced it overall Changing My tailpipe to a single 3" with reduces lowered my sound levels by 7db

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:11 AM

Having single 3'' straight through pipe on my vag conversion. Roll on the flames :D

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:21 AM

i think scooby noises come from the unequal length exhaust header

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:40 AM

i think scooby noises come from the unequal length exhaust header


Correct, the unusual noise is due to the exhaust pulses meeting in the collector.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:07 AM

How come highly tuned scoobys still sound throaty then? Would have thought they would have changed to an equal length systems? I thought it was due to cams and exhaust manifold




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