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#3561 NickB787

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:43 AM

4-1 on mine for information, probably helps get the gasses out a bit quicker.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:50 AM

Mr Scuffs!!!! Where have you been hiding?? Nick, you have a 3" tullet dont you? What cat did they put in your system? Ive got them to get me a hsj cat from the states.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:04 AM

I have a 2ublar setup and 2" primaries ( from the original thread) into a 4-1 collector (on over nearly 4 year now) with a 130mm cat Jim sourced for me.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:11 AM

Ah, my bad. Ive no idea what the specs of the tullet are.. Time will tell once its mapped if its any good. Lol

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:15 AM

Mikes is not helped by being a miss-match port wise...

his is a 4-2-1 where they have paired 1&2 and 3&4, quite what they were thinking I don't understand... (if you're going down the 4-2-1 route, it's 1&4 and 2&3).

Also, looking at them, I don't think his primaries are 1.75", they look smaller than that (that said, I have not measured them).

Realistically, 3" is plenty big enough for 400+ hp, as with most things, it's the detail in the design and construction that are key.

All that said, it's making decent power and to be blunt, it's not lack of power that's holding Mike back (when he gets to the point that the logging shows 70%+ of the lap time on WOT, that's the time to chase more power)


Well said Simon, it is not lack of power that is holding me back, it is confidence and skill.

Saying that and to answer Nev's question; no amount of power is too much power until the power overwhelms the chassis.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:37 AM

Or the driver :)

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:51 AM

Or the driver :)


Fair point Chris.

Did you get the PM from the hardtop guy?

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:29 AM

And here is the graph.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:34 AM

its the AFR thats important

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:46 AM

I did mike, thanks again for that.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:52 AM

Did you get IAT and Duty cycle info from them aswell?

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 10:25 AM

Did you get IAT and Duty cycle info from them aswell?


You would have to ask Ratty for that Chris.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 10:37 AM

Ill give jon an email.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:08 PM

Managed to grab an hour on the car over the weekend and started plumbing the NOS in.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:14 PM

Managed to grab an hour on the car over the weekend and started plumbing the NOS in.


Is that allowed this year?

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:15 PM


Managed to grab an hour on the car over the weekend and started plumbing the NOS in.


Is that allowed this year?


It is in Club Pro.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:24 PM



Managed to grab an hour on the car over the weekend and started plumbing the NOS in.


Is that allowed this year?


It is in Club Pro.


Was it allowed in Club Pro last year?

What do you hope to gain with it, a boost to mid-range torque? If so how does the car compensate, or is the map already a little extra-rich and the boost of oxygen leans it off into the 'power' afr band?

I am very new to this concept so please excuse the dumbness of my question if it is so.

Edited by Mangham54, 22 April 2013 - 01:29 PM.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:27 PM

Whereabouts are you injecting it, Mike?

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:39 PM

I think it's to cool the air, not for any specific gain.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 02:14 PM

It is a wet kit so the extra fuel is injected as well as the Nos. It will help cool the intake temps but it is there for power hike on the longer straights. It is misted post filter pre-charger on the intake pipe.




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