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[Mike (Cliffie)]

ronnie is also upping power with new cams

So we will need to beat him on the brakes and corners at Knockhill won't we.

[jamiewillson]

Christ, that really is shite!!!! Bloody expensive too for what we get. On the phone they just told me we had from 2-6. Cheeky gits.

[darronwall]

We already have the AM booked as a half track day Jimmy.

Is it worth the extra 45 minutes?

i would think so

[Aerodynamic]

Hi, Cliffie, how do you think your monotubes work? Sattisfied? Have you had the chance to compare them to Jims Nitron? ,Per

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

Hi, Cliffie, how do you think your monotubes work? Sattisfied?
Have you had the chance to compare them to Jims Nitron?

,Per

I believe one of his shocks has failed already.....

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Hi, Cliffie, how do you think your monotubes work? Sattisfied?
Have you had the chance to compare them to Jims Nitron?

,Per

I believe one of his shocks has failed already.....

Not so far. We had an issue when the clicks on a rear damper disappeared for some reason but after a session on track they magically came back. The clicks work on gas pressure I am told and with the shocks laid up for the best part of six months it may have taken some up and down action to get the pressure up again.

I doubt very much they will be as good as Jimmy's Nitron 46's but they are as good as I am going to get and they got me a 1:40 round Cadwell which is pretty impressive. Shame I got beaten by Ronnie in his Sierra who is also on Gaz I believe.

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

Lloyd did a 1:27 on Nitrons Doesnt sound great though mate having a spinning adjuster knob. Usually means a rebuild from my experience.....

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Lloyd did a 1:27 on Nitrons

Doesnt sound great though mate having a spinning adjuster knob. Usually means a rebuild from my experience.....

Lloyd has three times my power.

Wasn't great to be honest Jimmy but soon fixed. What experience do you have of spinning knobs and rebuilds. I thought you were a Nitron man through and through. Did you use another well known brand of shocker in your earlier VX ownership days?

[cnrandall]

Hi, Cliffie, how do you think your monotubes work? Sattisfied?
Have you had the chance to compare them to Jims Nitron?

,Per

I believe one of his shocks has failed already.....

Not so far. We had an issue when the clicks on a rear damper disappeared for some reason but after a session on track they magically came back. The clicks work on gas pressure I am told and with the shocks laid up for the best part of six months it may have taken some up and down action to get the pressure up again.

I doubt very much they will be as good as Jimmy's Nitron 46's but they are as good as I am going to get and they got me a 1:40 round Cadwell which is pretty impressive. Shame I got beaten by Ronnie in his Sierra who is also on Gaz I believe.

The pressure in the damper is from a fixed Nitrogen charge that won't build up with use. It might leak out but if you have the clicks back I doubt that's happened. The clicks are from a detent system in the adjuster dial itself which isn't spring loaded so does require pressure in the damper to give a positive feel. If the clicks have been lost momentarily I imagine it was simply some stiction in the damper. If they dial becomes hard to turn and rough then its likely the seal on the adjuster itself has let it some moisture and this can be rectified without rebuilding the damper but if its lost gas pressure you will need a rebuild. I regularly check for gas pressure by removing the dampers, compressing them and making sure they extent back out under their own steam and in roughly the same time.

On Friday I back-to-backed my 46mm's with the 40mm's and currently the 40mm's are 0.5 sec faster on Brands Indy and much nicer to drive on so we have lots of work to do still on the 46mm's to get them ahead. To be fair, my 40mm three ways have had an enormous amount of work go into them so it was no surprise.

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

Lloyd did a 1:27 on Nitrons

Doesnt sound great though mate having a spinning adjuster knob. Usually means a rebuild from my experience.....

Lloyd has three times my power.

Wasn't great to be honest Jimmy but soon fixed. What experience do you have of spinning knobs and rebuilds. I thought you were a Nitron man through and through. Did you use another well known brand of shocker in your earlier VX ownership days?

RE Lloyd - Just saying Mike, you're the first to get on your soapbox anytime someone with Gaz shocks wins a raffle so I wanted to point out that the overall winner and Time Attack record holder is on Nitron mate. It was you that brought up the Cadwell results...

RE other shocks - I was on Sachs for a while. Found them verey good and super reliable but that wasn't where I had the spinny knob of doom that was on an old Motocross bike.

On Friday I back-to-backed my 46mm's with the 40mm's and currently the 40mm's are 0.5 sec faster on Brands Indy and much nicer to drive on so we have lots of work to do still on the 46mm's to get them ahead. To be fair, my 40mm three ways have had an enormous amount of work go into them so it was no surprise.

Have you finalised your valving spec on the 46's yet though...?

[cnrandall]

No way near, as I say, currently the 46mm's 3 ways are a good margin behind the 40mm 3-ways. When I have the 3-way spec sorted I'll move on to the single way which is the one that will sell in more quantity. I think the single way will be a little harder to get right than the three way too as I want better road comfort as well as the track performance and that will be a hard compromise to strike.

[Mike (Cliffie)]

RE Lloyd - Just saying Mike, you're the first to get on your soapbox anytime someone with Gaz shocks wins a round of Time Attack or Elise Trophy so I wanted to point out that the overall winner and Time Attack record holder is on Nitron mate. It was you that brought up the Cadwell results...

And it was you that said about my lap in the final being a VX lap record that won't be beaten for some time.

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

RE Lloyd - Just saying Mike, you're the first to get on your soapbox anytime someone with Gaz shocks wins a round of Time Attack or Elise Trophy so I wanted to point out that the overall winner and Time Attack record holder is on Nitron mate. It was you that brought up the Cadwell results...

And it was you that said about my lap in the final being a VX lap record that won't be beaten for some time.

It was a great lap Mike, nobody has said otherwise. Not sure what point you're trying to make....?

A VX record a rather lofty title; you're the only VX that's ever done Cadwell in Time Attack I'm winding you up though Mike, you have to stop taking the bait so easily I'm making myself feel guilty

[chris_uk]

Jimmy do you think if lloyd was on gaz's then he wouldnt be the winner?

[CocoPops]

Also, I think it's great that Cliffie races with what he sells. Same for Jimmy. But seriously, can we stop with the bitchiness, it's no better than Chris Golds thread. Whether it's meant in jest or not, it's not exactly morale building is it? I don't know if it's the medium of text Jimmy, but your comments do always come across as possibly more cutting than you mean, but they don't read well.

[Mike (Cliffie)]

You must have been up longer than me today Jimmy lad.

[Scuffers]

Also, I think it's great that Cliffie races with what he sells. Same for Jimmy.

But seriously, can we stop with the bitchiness, it's no better than Chris Golds thread.

Whether it's meant in jest or not, it's not exactly morale building is it?

I don't know if it's the medium of text Jimmy, but your comments do always come across as possibly more cutting than you mean, but they don't read well.

Yea, after all, if they wanted to win, they would run Quantums..(like Jamie).

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

Jimmy do you think if lloyd was on gaz's then he wouldnt be the winner?

2 for the price of 1

Also, I think it's great that Cliffie races with what he sells. Same for Jimmy.

But seriously, can we stop with the bitchiness, it's no better than Chris Golds thread.

Whether it's meant in jest or not, it's not exactly morale building is it?

I don't know if it's the medium of text Jimmy, but your comments do always come across as possibly more cutting than you mean, but they don't read well.

It's a bit of banter Lee nothing more. If my comments are cutting it's not meant (some of the time) but I'll try and keep it hap hap happy

You must have been up longer than me today Jimmy lad.

I'm probably walking onto one here but; what you mean...?


Look I hope people are not taking things personally here, it's not meant that way but I'll have my say guys. Potential reliability issues have croped up on the new mono shock and it's as if it's a crime to mention them.....? Rest assured nobody else would. But we're not allowed to say bad things about products that half of you have paid for.....?

[Darcini]

But seriously, can we stop with the bitchiness, it's no better than Chris Golds thread.

Exactly that, you are both on the same team FFS.

[CocoPops]

Remember, there are many casual readers Jimmy that don't know that you're a nice guy really So, if they see this thread and only happen to see the constant digging (jest or otherwise) then thats what they'll know you for.