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[slindborg]

Railways already devolved

 

 

seemingly, not completely...

NR still owns and maintains the railway up there, it also employs the people who work for the scottish rail lot

The operators could of course be scottish / indie but thats the same for all the TOC's

 

sh*t, I'm a train geek

[techieboy]

Don't want foreign ownership of UK transport infrastructure, so hopefully we'll renationalise the railways at 10p on the £ and tell the Souter's to fcuk off.

[Rosssco]

If the SNP told us we'd get to use unicorns (about as feasible as most of their other claims), I'd might consider voting for them (of course, its not for "them")..

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-27294419

Edited by Rosssco, 07 May 2014 - 12:19 PM.

[G-Bob]

 

Reality check, Scotland if it goes Independent will be run by a bunch of self interested politicians and the public will have to deal with the same old crap in Scotland that the rest of do.

 

 

That's always been one of my points....  It doesn't matter if we are independent or not, the country will still be run by a bunch of shite politicians who promise the world and deliver nothing.  The only thing that will have happened is that we will have spent a sh*t load of money to get to that stage.  We are not going to claim back the costs of going independent in my lifetime that's for sure.

 

It all sounds great in theory, but politicians are untrustworthy no matter where they come from.

[Rosssco]

 

 

Reality check, Scotland if it goes Independent will be run by a bunch of self interested politicians and the public will have to deal with the same old crap in Scotland that the rest of do.

 

 

That's always been one of my points....  It doesn't matter if we are independent or not, the country will still be run by a bunch of shite politicians who promise the world and deliver nothing.  The only thing that will have happened is that we will have spent a sh*t load of money to get to that stage.  We are not going to claim back the costs of going independent in my lifetime that's for sure.

 

It all sounds great in theory, but politicians are untrustworthy no matter where they come from.

 

 

Disallutionment (spelling) with the government is nothing specific to Scotland though. It just happens that we have a nationalist party up here that has seized its moment and pushed for all out independance, which the vast majority of Scots aren't really bothered about, they just want a bit more representation. The YESNP campaign has worked this well to convince many that its the only way forward (hence their own doom-mongering on the status quo - there is no chance of the status quo prevailing now I feel, yes or no). We already are the most democratically accountable part of the UK, with much of the power to change things on a daily basis. Of course we cede some power to gain some benefits of aligning with other parts of the UK, which is a fair trade.

 

Everyone knows the vote for independance would plummet so as to make it an almost forgone conclusion should a credible Devo-max proposition be set out (the Nationalists would have no real case), and I partly blame some in the UK government for being slow in recognising this, which is a signifcant political mistake, and underestimation of feelings of disenchantement, which people in other parts of the UK feel just as strongly..

 

Either way, it should serve as a good kick up the arse for the UK government...

[Harry Hornet]

Could this weks Hoon be the last as it is known

 

next Years could possibly require

 

1. Passports

2. Special overseas insurance

3. UK plates and not GB plates

4. Driving on other side of road

5. Langauage books

6. Toll roads  fees (got to collect some tax from somewhere to feed the locals somehow)

7. and finally a Scot.org ;like Valhalla.org.....to allow them a sense of independence from .org 

[myles]

rUK plates. Oh well.

[slindborg]

GB plates would still exist, just Scotland wont be Great anymore...

[techieboy]

We could rebrand as Greater Britain, post independence.

 

And "much more United Kingdom".

[slindborg]

CB - Classy Britain

[myles]

BB-Better Britain

[Harry Hornet]

just had a thought..

 

..what about after their independence we all went  across the border and asked for asylum....being put in one...

[darronwall]

We could rebrand as Greater Britain, post independence.

 

And "much more United Kingdom".

 

ha ha  

[Mangham54]

just had a thought..   ..what about after their independence we all went  across the border and asked for asylum....being put in one...

Or all head north with our EHiC cards and get medical treatment across the border. Oh wait, that is still more likely the other way round!

[Mike-F]

Why did Scotland join the union in the first place, oh wait the failed Darien Scheme. They needed bailing out and  as a struggling small country. It will be very sad if Scotland votes to leave the union, and as anyone that has ever been through a divorce will tell you it will not be cheap for either side.

 

The problem is there are some in Scotland who want independence at any cost, I have no doubt that Scotland will survive as an independent nation but only up to the point where it is absorbed into the EU!

 

Personally would like Scotland to stay with us but if they chose to leave then there should be a complete separation, no sharing of this that and the other(currency etc).

 

[RabnaKS]

Why did Scotland join the union in the first place, oh wait the failed Darien Scheme. They needed bailing out and  as a struggling small country. It will be very sad if Scotland votes to leave the union, and as anyone that has ever been through a divorce will tell you it will not be cheap for either side.   The problem is there are some in Scotland who want independence at any cost, I have no doubt that Scotland will survive as an independent nation but only up to the point where it is absorbed into the EU!   Personally would like Scotland to stay with us but if they chose to leave then there should be a complete separation, no sharing of this that and the other(currency etc).  

You have to be very careful with speak like that, the cybernats will haunt you! �

[LY_Scott]

You boys have been busy eh!

[myles]

You can of course have a pop at Eurovision,come independence!

[LY_Scott]

har har, To reply to some of the drivel above It won't be anything Britain because Great Britain's 307 year existance as a state after a union between the two countries on the island will cease. (Wales was a principality of England) UK is a possibility because England and Wales will still be hanging on to 6 counties of Ireland (and that is going to confuse the right old shite out of them). None of that til March 2016 though. Hoon will be as normal next year No toll roads here, the wonderful scottish government removed the tolls from Skye, Forth and Tay bridges. No language books needed. Scots language is historic enough, I'm no fan of us turning to Gaelic and there's no plans for it. We've learned to speak slowly and loudly (especially G-Bob) with confornted with sassenachs Interested as to why Chris thinks we'll be trying to use the NHS in England given that the tories are selling it off and it's still fully public up here?

[Harry Hornet]

har har, To reply to some of the drivel above It won't be anything Britain because Great Britain's 307 year existance as a state after a union between the two countries on the island will cease. (Wales was a principality of England) UK is a possibility because England and Wales will still be hanging on to 6 counties of Ireland (and that is going to confuse the right old shite out of them). None of that til March 2016 though. Hoon will be as normal next year No toll roads here, the wonderful scottish government removed the tolls from Skye, Forth and Tay bridges. No language books needed. Scots language is historic enough, I'm no fan of us turning to Gaelic and there's no plans for it. We've learned to speak slowly and loudly (especially G-Bob) with confornted with sassenachs Interested as to why Chris thinks we'll be trying to use the NHS in England given that the tories are selling it off and it's still fully public up here?

 

yea, yea , yea..blah blah blah..but you will still have shite goalkeepers..even your best team needs an Englishman