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[LY_Scott]

http://www.theguardi...ster?CMP=twt_gu

[KurtVerbose]

I've not seen it on this forum - it's been a nice friendly debate.

 

So who exactly said this?

 

Dunno, it was a quote from a guy on a forum. Maybe he was lying. Maybe he was politically motivated. I don't think so though. You've not met any death eaters - do they not exist? Was JK making it up?

[Zuber]

So hopefully lots of secret No Voters just saying we are Voting Yes in the hope that Scott thinks his job is done and stops spamming Facebook

[LY_Scott]

There are fucktards in all societies and usually kids on twatter are where they are to be found. The overwhelming majority of the debate has been held at a decent high brow level. I can't imagine anyone saying that to someone they know or even in person. I can only think its been online in some dodgy page.

[slindborg]

The merest hint of voting for the Tories sometimes gets a "toff jolly nice chap" comment or communist for labour etc... So I wouldn't be shocked if some north of the boarder said those things, as a minority.

[ghand]

So should I draw all my retirement fund from Scotish Widows now before they fcuk it all up ? Maybe a plan I think, invest it in solid English stuff as I can't honestly see Scotland doing better than us long term and short term even less so as like me folk pull money out. I think they've all gone frigging mad LOL I blame SCOT

[Rudy]

I'd have withdrawn it long before the referendum if you were with Scottish widows! Very very poor returns on pension savings over the long term.

[ghand]

I'd have withdrawn it long before the referendum if you were with Scottish widows! Very very poor returns on pension savings over the long term.

Was pleased with £4k profit last year. Similar to buying and renting a low end house near me without the hassle. Oh and my brother got over 10 percent the year before which is why I went for them as that's not bad

Edited by ghand, 08 September 2014 - 10:38 PM.

[Rudy]

I'd have withdrawn it long before the referendum if you were with Scottish widows! Very very poor returns on pension savings over the long term.

Was pleased with £4k profit last year. Similar to buying and renting a low end house near me without the hassle.

Ok, 4k sounds good but depends on the pot you've got. 4k on a 50k pot is very good but on a 100 or 500k pot is not. Size of your pot?

[ghand]

I'd have withdrawn it long before the referendum if you were with Scottish widows! Very very poor returns on pension savings over the long term.

Was pleased with £4k profit last year. Similar to buying and renting a low end house near me without the hassle.

Ok, 4k sounds good but depends on the pot you've got. 4k on a 50k pot is very good but on a 100 or 500k pot is not. Size of your pot?

60K but split quite a lot over different sectors of investments so not high risk, he hopes was very very torn between this and a cheap house to rent, time will tell.

[jules_s]

Sky reported this morning that 50% of Scottish GDP is made up from banking and whisky So given Ghand is taking his pot out that just leaves Whisky then Oh wait

[ghand]

Sky reported this morning that 50% of Scottish GDP is made up from banking and whisky So given Ghand is taking his pot out that just leaves Whisky then Oh wait

Hey Wales has a nice whiskey.

[techieboy]

I'm looking forward to swingeing duty increases on imported whisky now there won't be a whingeing whisky producers lobby to pander to, every budget. The House of Commons/Lords bars can just make do with the stuff from that distillery in Norfolk as the UK parliament can't be seen to endorse foreign muck. Can do the same to Heinepiss too.

[Dunk]

Here's an observation which is unlikely to be popular on here: The only whingeing I've spotted in this thread has come from people outside of Scotland. That and extreme bitterness. Very little debate. Very little good-natured banter. Where's the .org love it's so famed for? I genuinely do not personally know, nor have I had contact with even a single independence supporter who is anti-English/rUK. The reported, quoted & imagined whingeing & anti-English comment and feeling is from a tiny minority of tw@ts. Everywhere's got them (EDL/benefit cheats anyone?) but as usual, the eternally sensationalist and often biased press focus on them to the exclusion of representation or reason. The internet, its social media and all the counter-productive forums continue to amplify these morons' voices disproportionately. The bile and uninformed bollocks I read from some of the contributors on here and elsewhere is pretty fcuked-up and sad. As far as I can see, this, far less than anything happening in Scotland, amongst Scottish people is what's driving a wedge between out nations and is what is in danger of leading to a 'fcuk you' vote. How about backing away from your overworked keyboards, phones, tablets and alcohol-fuelled conversations, sitting for a few moments in quiet contemplation and then resuming normal service? Peace out.

[ghand]

Here's an observation which is unlikely to be popular on here: The only whingeing I've spotted in this thread has come from people outside of Scotland. That and extreme bitterness. Very little debate. Very little good-natured banter. Where's the .org love it's so famed for? I genuinely do not personally know, nor have I had contact with even a single independence supporter who is anti-English/rUK. The reported, quoted & imagined whingeing & anti-English comment and feeling is from a tiny minority of tw@ts. Everywhere's got them (EDL/benefit cheats anyone?) but as usual, the eternally sensationalist and often biased press focus on them to the exclusion of representation or reason. The internet, its social media and all the counter-productive forums continue to amplify these morons' voices disproportionately. The bile and uninformed bollocks I read from some of the contributors on here and elsewhere is pretty fcuked-up and sad. As far as I can see, this, far less than anything happening in Scotland, amongst Scottish people is what's driving a wedge between out nations and is what is in danger of leading to a 'fcuk you' vote. How about backing away from your overworked keyboards, phones, tablets and alcohol-fuelled conversations, sitting for a few moments in quiet contemplation and then resuming normal service? Peace out.

Sorry Dunk, alcohol fuelled banter is mostly all I do, now I'm off for some Co Codamol and a Red Bull for breakfast

[LY_Scott]

Here's a stark contrast for you to think about. Just ponder where your information comes from. What are the benefits of it appearing as an anti English movement? Many, it makes the yes camp look like xenophobes. It makes any yes vote look thuggish and immature and easily talked down as those idiots etc. It also gives a mandate for anti Scottish sentiment and a strong ruk stance in the event of a yes vote rather than a pragmatic one. I've seen the english edition daily mail front pages. We all have. The side effect of it is stuff like we've read in here and this from last night Compare the stark contrast to the reality of the England team being cheered into Celtic Park during the commonwealth games opening ceremony and throughout the games even though the English press had everyone convinced they'd be booed for some mad reason. Quickly forgotten that ehtml http://www.telegraph...d-by-Scots.html Really question your media. We've been analysing ours very very closely for a couple of years now. Bias, spin and blatent lies in the media is enormous.

[Dunk]

Here's an observation which is unlikely to be popular on here: The only whingeing I've spotted in this thread has come from people outside of Scotland. That and extreme bitterness. Very little debate. Very little good-natured banter. Where's the .org love it's so famed for? I genuinely do not personally know, nor have I had contact with even a single independence supporter who is anti-English/rUK. The reported, quoted & imagined whingeing & anti-English comment and feeling is from a tiny minority of tw@ts. Everywhere's got them (EDL/benefit cheats anyone?) but as usual, the eternally sensationalist and often biased press focus on them to the exclusion of representation or reason. The internet, its social media and all the counter-productive forums continue to amplify these morons' voices disproportionately. The bile and uninformed bollocks I read from some of the contributors on here and elsewhere is pretty fcuked-up and sad. As far as I can see, this, far less than anything happening in Scotland, amongst Scottish people is what's driving a wedge between out nations and is what is in danger of leading to a 'fcuk you' vote. How about backing away from your overworked keyboards, phones, tablets and alcohol-fuelled conversations, sitting for a few moments in quiet contemplation and then resuming normal service? Peace out.

Sorry Dunk, alcohol fuelled banter is mostly all I do, now I'm off for some Co Codamol and a Red Bull for breakfast

Gogs, you do banter & that's the difference

[ghand]

Here's an observation which is unlikely to be popular on here: The only whingeing I've spotted in this thread has come from people outside of Scotland. That and extreme bitterness. Very little debate. Very little good-natured banter. Where's the .org love it's so famed for? I genuinely do not personally know, nor have I had contact with even a single independence supporter who is anti-English/rUK. The reported, quoted & imagined whingeing & anti-English comment and feeling is from a tiny minority of tw@ts. Everywhere's got them (EDL/benefit cheats anyone?) but as usual, the eternally sensationalist and often biased press focus on them to the exclusion of representation or reason. The internet, its social media and all the counter-productive forums continue to amplify these morons' voices disproportionately. The bile and uninformed bollocks I read from some of the contributors on here and elsewhere is pretty fcuked-up and sad. As far as I can see, this, far less than anything happening in Scotland, amongst Scottish people is what's driving a wedge between out nations and is what is in danger of leading to a 'fcuk you' vote. How about backing away from your overworked keyboards, phones, tablets and alcohol-fuelled conversations, sitting for a few moments in quiet contemplation and then resuming normal service? Peace out.

Sorry Dunk, alcohol fuelled banter is mostly all I do, now I'm off for some Co Codamol and a Red Bull for breakfast

Gogs, you do banter & that's the difference

Ha ha, you know I started this by asking one simple question will I need a passport for the next Hoon and I now have a zillion pages of spam I blame Scot again

[MartinS]

I'm sorry but very few scots can take the high ground when it comes to things like an anti approach to Scotland by England fans.

I have been in many a place where England would be playing another team where they have always cheered on the other team, any team, though they may not be Englands intellectual finest, theyre doing nothing worse than the Scots do every time we play any sport. 

When working abroad on and off for 3 years all I ever met were Scots so proud of there homeland, it was also the place where I realised the only people who called them selves British were the English. These are obviously personal experiences but from working with them in Scotland or abroad I have never felt any warmth coming Englands way and maybe they'll just be happier without us.

 

Martin S

 

[LY_Scott]

And for Jules...

The size of the Scottish financial sector as a proportion of the onshore Scottish economy is around 8 per cent – similar to the UK – and smaller than the UK at 6.7 per cent when a geographical share of oil and gas output is included.  In contrast, London accounts for around 50% of UK financial services GVA. In addition, in 2010, Scotland accounted for 7.1 per cent of UK financial services GVA, below a per capita share.  Such issues are perhaps clearly summarised by the fact that in a recent experimental series of tax revenue statistics, HMRC estimated Scotland’s share of the Bank Levy (a charge on the balance sheets of banks) to be 7.3 per cent of the UK total 2 . This is in sharp contrast to the near 25 per cent which would be required to be consistent with this earlier analysis by HM Treasury.