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[Mangham54]

How about that it was possibly illegal? How do you feel about changes in goal posts after people have already voted and in contradiction to the Edinburgh agreement of the last 28 days?

 

But isn't that scaremongering and throwing a negative spin on the situation

[Rosssco]

Have they changed the goal posts, or just proposed a timetable on the delivery of extra power already proposed..?

 

In our new, fairer, Scotland, the government will ensure there are no leaks.. Or ELSE!

Edited by Rosssco, 11 September 2014 - 11:57 AM.

[LY_Scott]

That's not scaremongering. I'm not trying to put fear into anyone. Trying to have a campaign based on arguments. Its now attempted to be won on pish and disregard for rules set down

[LY_Scott]

They released it as a new announcement. A policy of a timetable for events.

[LY_Scott]

Salmond is across the road at the EICC making a speech just now. Anyone see it on the news? Thought not.

[Rosssco]

Its now attempted to be won on pish and disregard for rules set down

 

#irony

 

Given the majority of the YESNP campaign is based on pish and selection of arguments and data specifically to support a pre-suppossed conclusion, perhaps the UK government has learned a thing ot two

[LY_Scott]

In your wholly bias opinion Ross.

[Rosssco]

Salmond is across the road at the EICC making a speech just now. Anyone see it on the news? Thought not.

 

Yup. The headline story in the Scottish section of BBC news...

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-29151322

[slindborg]

Is it on scottish news? if so then good, if not then its got shag all to do with "us"

[Judderman]

There is a Waitrose in Stirling. A newbuild, I go there for a poo if I'm working through that way. Nice facilities! What about the national lottery? I better get my finger out and win it.

 

Now i feel like I'm loosing out, we only have a co-op here and its like having a poo at your nans house whilst everyones outside listening for the splash

[Mangham54]

Is it on scottish news? if so then good, if not then its got shag all to do with "us"

 

I work in a building without tvs... or have a data connection that would allow me to watch anything on-line. Currently I have to hit "reload page" twice when moving between pages on here.

[Mangham54]

 

There is a Waitrose in Stirling. A newbuild, I go there for a poo if I'm working through that way. Nice facilities! What about the national lottery? I better get my finger out and win it.

 

Now i feel like I'm loosing out, we only have a co-op here and its like having a poo at your nans house whilst everyones outside listening for the splash

 

 

[Rosssco]

An interesting perspective on the potential fall-out across Europe.

 

http://www.telegraph...rope-apart.html

[LY_Scott]

Ot oh... There goes the new powers (even though nobody know what they're going to be) http://www.dailymail...x-spending.html

[techieboy]

How about that it was possibly illegal?

I've no idea what constitutes legality around leaks but can't see any great harm. It came out maybe 8.5 hours earlier than it probably should have done (at 10pm they were only taking about rumours on the news at 10:30 is was sounding firmer). I'm sure if RBS deliberately leaked it themselves it's against Stock Market rules but not sure whether that makes it "illegal" as such and not sure what that means if the Treasury leaked it or the Government "briefed" it. Not like anyone confirmed it until this morning so it might just be a journalistic coup. It just caught Salmond off guard and unprepared with a positive spin, hence the bitching about enquiries. Seems unlikely Salmond will get the results of an enquiry before next Thursday anyway.  

How do you feel about changes in goal posts after people have already voted and in contradiction to the Edinburgh agreement of the last 28 days?

Personally, I don't think the goal posts have really changed but they might have shifted slightly. As an rUK'er I thought there had always been talk of more devolved powers to the Scottish parliament on the table, in the event of a No vote. I grant you, it's still not entirely clear what those increased powers may actually consist of but then I don't think anyone is, as yet, as they're likely to need to be agreed on. If there has been a fundamental change, then I can only see the "Yes" side as the net winner as the "No" vote has presumably just become more attractive than it was three weeks ago (or whenever the postal vote started) to the more centrist people who may already have voted "Yes" in the absence of a devomax option. I honestly don't think it's hurt the existing Yes vote. "No" shot themselves in the foot, me thinks, with the late campaign and should have made it clear months ago.

[LY_Scott]

Beautifully done first minister. Educated me on corporation tax and probably a few others. Worth a watch

[KurtVerbose]

Scott, I've just watched Kidnapped with Michael Caine. I now have some understanding of how you feel. May I personally apologise on behalf of Englandshire.

[Rosssco]

Ot oh... There goes the new powers (even though nobody know what they're going to be) http://www.dailymail...x-spending.html

 

What, but that's a Daily Fail link you are quoting..? I thought the MSM was conspiring against you? Why have you been quoting them?

 

And these would be the same English MP's, supposedly reacting with "fury" that will bend over and accept a currency union..?? Couldn't make this sh^t up honestly..

 

Whilst we're here, seems the nationalists favourite justification for financial credibility has spoken:

 

http://www.ft.com/cm...l#axzz3D0hViRsV

 

 

I'll review our illustrious leaders speech when Im home, although I'll choke if I hear something new, rather than old stuff re-spun and injected with 'hope'..

[techieboy]

Educated me on corporation tax and probably a few others.

So if the money has moved to London and the HQ has moved to London just where do you think the economic activity is taking place? Edinburgh ex-HQ just becomes a cost centre with no income generation. Scotland in the name, is just Scotland in the name.

Edited by techieboy, 11 September 2014 - 12:52 PM.

[LY_Scott]

Who says money is moving to London? The HQ isn't moving either. The RBS statement specifically states there are no plans to move operations or jobs. They've simply made legal changes to retain support of the Bank of England. The UK government owns 81% of RBS. Trading and operations will continue at their HQ and their other sites across Scotland.

Edited by LY_Scott, 11 September 2014 - 12:53 PM.