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[LY_Scott]

Those questions have been covered already. You should also look at what way exports go on electricity and water between Scotland and England.

[LY_Scott]

Also quite funny you think you'll need to export gas to Scotland!?

[LY_Scott]

Laws.....Scots law is separate and has always been. We already have laws to cover all of that. Its the same laws we use at the moment. Data protection you'll know the data belongs to the subject not the company... The institutions you need to think of the population size and that most of it already exists. They don't need to be the size of the ones which already exist when set up as new in the online 21st century and will be joined up many cases.

[XXX]

Ha! My gas-supply knowledge is pretty thin. I merely meant the movement around the UK. I am pretty sure that (slighty) less than 100% of UK gas is of North Sea origin. 

 

Ok, these points have been raised before. As I said, I don't recall them being discussed it was just a passing thought earlier today. Just the practicalities of a UK split really.

 

Perhaps I should read the 650 Q&As on the Scotland's Future website

 

 

[Craig S]

There is a Waitrose in Stirling. A newbuild, I go there for a poo if I'm working through that way. Nice facilities! What about the national lottery? I better get my finger out and win it.

Free coffee too, handy being 5 mins walk from the house.

[jonnyboy]

Well its been an interesting couple of weeks the poll putting yes ahead for me was a bit of a "WTF?" moment

 

I think the temptation which is understandable is that the Scots are confusing patriotism with pragmatism. Currently Scotland enjoys all the benefits of free education, better health and social care etc than the rest of the UK all they have to do is do the obligatory moaning about their English pig dictators and blah blah. It must be the best place in the UK to live. All these benefits will go within months of a yes vote.

 

The fact of the matter is that a yes vote will be totally catastrophic. The banks will move lock stock to England. Scotland will have no central bank thats worth anything so the guarantees for individuals and possibility for Government bailouts will disappear resulting in a run on ALL Scottish banks. Scotland will not get the pound so they will be starting a new country with a new currency so no ability to raise funding on the international markets. The economy will be high inflation at least for a good period after independence until the currency settles down. If BP announce theres bugger all oil left in the North Sea at any point withing the next 10-15 years it will completely destroy the country.

 

I really hope they vote no. In these times with Russia flexing their muscles becoming a small country outside of the EU with no proper currency and no Nuclear defense capability is borderline insanity. No doubt there will always be an assumption even after a Yes vote that England will be there to bail Scotland out again I think they better together campaign should have been firmer in pointing out that going it alone means going it alone. No backup from the motherland.

 

[LY_Scott]

Still think we're having a fair and democratic debate?

I didn't believe it either, go check his twitter account for yourselves.

[Mangham54]

Having worked for one of the big ones, I know that there had been grumblings that Scotland was an expensive territory for the group. However there would be uproar if any of the chains were to follow through with the threats of differentiating prices between territories.

[XXX]

Whilst there is no certainty in far too many aspects of this debate, there is a real concern that market forces WILL contrive against the Yescottish consumer that will, in the short term at least, bring about some retail price rises. Many of the national supermarkets, suppliers, wholesalers do subsidise goods to Scotland to ensure a certain amount of price uniformity across the UK. Not all, but some. This may very well change should they become exporters to Yescotland.

 

In the long term, the utopia of Yescotland prices will, I am sure be far cheaper than the UK

 

This is another troubling uncertainty that voters will have to chew over. I think the very real problem for all voters is the pure uncertaintly of this whole situation. Nobody likes uncertainty, especially banks, retailers, investors and overseas trade partners.

 

I really, really do not envy any Scottish voters. You have a HUGE decision to make that is going to effect you all in some way for ever and a day. For your lives, your children and your children's children. Not just until the next local, general or european election. For ever. Unless of course, they apply for a visa to come live with us 

 

 

[CocoPops]

So he urged them to go public... And that's worse than telling them to hush up and hide the fact until afterwards is it Scott?

[Claws]

There is a Waitrose in Stirling. A newbuild, I go there for a poo if I'm working through that way. Nice facilities! What about the national lottery? I better get my finger out and win it.

Free coffee too, handy being 5 mins walk from the house.

Free coffee!? That's the best kind! How do you wangle that, do you have to be a Stirlingite?

[Craig S]

There is a Waitrose in Stirling. A newbuild, I go there for a poo if I'm working through that way. Nice facilities! What about the national lottery? I better get my finger out and win it.

Free coffee too, handy being 5 mins walk from the house.

Free coffee!? That's the best kind! How do you wangle that, do you have to be a Stirlingite?

go to the customer desk and ask for a my waitrose card, then go to cafe and say free coffee please - even do it take away

[Goosenka]

Get a My Waitrose card

Edited by Goosenka, 11 September 2014 - 08:20 PM.

[Seb.F]

Still think we're having a fair and democratic debate? I didn't believe it either, go check his twitter account for yourselves.

 

I'm fairly certain that's a decision the supermarkets have made themselves and not that the PM has forced upon them....

[LY_Scott]

Robert Peston is BBC reporter based in London. He's not doing us any favours. Lee the point is the PM has asked them to do this to aid his campaign. There is no reason why anything will rise

[jonnyboy]

I hate Cameron but to be honest if thats in his armory why not use it? At least it is more facts going out to voters rather than the Salmond approach of just saying everything his fine/historic opportunity etc when secretly even he must be thing what the feck are we going to do if these guys actually vote yes!  

[XXX]

There is no reason why anything will rise

 

So a retailer, retailing from multiple outlets in UK at uniform pricing, is not going to alter their prices when costs increase in Yescotland if your economy dictates. ie rising labour costs (possibly), currency fluctuations (possibly), differing legislation (possibly), supply delays at border crossings ( )?

 

I am no expert, but I can't forsee a reduction in pricing given that many retailers already incur additional costs trading in Scotland, particularly transportation.

 

Personally, I would not imagine that prices would rise more than a small % though. The government like to scare us. When utility prices increase and they announce that it's going to cost everyone an additional £17 per annum, they make it sound serious....

 

More speculation and uncertainty.....

[Rosssco]

Not a bad debate with the youngsters on the BBC - better informed than some of the so called adults we hear questions from...

[LY_Scott]

Aye it was quite good. George Galloway is still a fanny. That was a fail on the no campaigns side. Where were the labour party?

[techieboy]

However there would be uproar if any of the chains were to follow through with the threats of differentiating prices between territories.

 

Why? There's already price differences within the UK (and within England itself). Can you honestly say you know (or care for that matter) about the price of something in a Northern Irish supermarket, in comparison to the same item in a mainland supermarket?