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[XXX]

What has changed

 

The nasty Tories are in charge now.....  

[Graeme Lambert]

But they had their chance in 1978 and they said NO then Why be allowed another What has changed

 

Actually the majority said yes didn't they in 1978?

 

Just that there wasn't enough of them out there saying either yes or no...

 

 

 

I have to admit I'm sick of the commentary on all this now, from the political side and the general public. I can't wait for it to be over, whichever way it goes.

 

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[LY_Scott]

Yep we said yes in 1979....

[myles]

Yep we said yes in 1979....

Were you alive?

[LY_Scott]

Nope. Were you?

[myles]

Nope. Were you?

Yeah, don't really remember the vote though.

[jules_s]

One thing is certain; Scott is going to have quite a lot of spare time when it's over

[LY_Scott]

Yes. Luckily I'm off on a cruise on the 27th so you'll not hear a lot from me for a couple of weeks either way it goes

[KurtVerbose]

Have fun on the cruise.

 

[Rudy]

Have fun!!

[Rudy]

I have to admit I'm sick of the commentary on all this now   G

Couldn't agree more. But, the next general election will be interesting if it's a yes vote

[Zoobeef]

So, up till now im guessing all the yes voters have been voting in the practice polls and some of the no people haven't because they know pretend practice votes are a waste of time. So once the proper vote has taken place and it's a no it should be funny to see salmon fishes face over how much time and money he's gotten people to waste. It's surprising how many people have said they are holding off house purchases and the like as if it is a yes then they'll be leaving. What another company thinks, I really don't think your doing yourselves any favors. Obviously, anyone in the yes campaign will just say it's all slander/bbc bullshit etc. https://www.facebook...lmodels?fref=ts Time Tunnel Models 12 September SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE REFERENDUM Following numerous calls and emails from many, many of our customers questioning what effect the situation of a YES vote in Scotland will have on our business, supply and ongoing service, we have spent some considerable time discussing the situation with suppliers and investigating the implications of this huge change. Our conclusion is that for a business where 100% of our suppliers are from outside of Scotland and over 80% of our customers are in either England or Wales, it will be unviable to operate from outside of England or Wales if Scotland becomes independent. Not least, the issue of charging VAT in one country on goods mainly delivered to another, is a major issue under European accounting rules with our volume of business, and the further issues of cross-border inward supply make everything far from plain sailing. For this reason, we would like to thank our small number of Scottish based customers, but unfortunately we will be forced to relocate our entire operation outside of Scotland to better serve the majority of orders that we process daily, before full independence occurs in 2016. We hope against hope that this doesn't have to happen.

[LY_Scott]

I have to admit I'm sick of the commentary on all this now   G

Couldn't agree more. But, the next general election will be interesting if it's a yes vote

It will be chaotic. There's chat of postponing it until 2016 which might make more sense. Not sure what polls you mean Mark. Most of the polling I've seen has No just ahead. Yes has been ahead in only 2(??). There's no practice polls as such they are surveys conducted by polling companies to guage opinion. The same companies that do this during elections. Who knows what will happen, the campaign has changed over the past couple of weeks, really picked up pace and it's properly visible all over. Thousands of people out on the streets. Interesting times. It's going to be very close. #voteyes

[Rosssco]

They won't post-pone a general election for this. To do so would be quite undemocratic, and give the current government more time than they should have in power. The supposed negotiations that will take place will just have to wait until after the GE has concluded, meaning this time next year realistically. Which gives Team Salmond about 6-7 months to sucessfully negotiate possibly one of the most complex set of negotiations that two countries have ever had to do, in order to meet their politically motivated 'independance day'...

 

Just as with the currency union issue, some nationalists think they hold some sort of power over the other +60 million people not in Scotland. Oh how mistaken they will be...

[LY_Scott]

Of course you would think that. Its not my suggestion. http://www.theguardi...ts-independence Its pretty special circumstances. Its not just the negotiations. It's removing the 59 Scottish, probably labour and SNP MPs a year into the parliament.

[Rosssco]

The negotiations, whilst important to conclude in a relatively quick fashion to limit damage to both countries, will ultimately fall secondary to the political requirements of the UK.

 

Might just be that we are excluded from voting next year in the UK general election, and the commons becomes smaller to suit, until a more fomalised approach is put in place. That (to me) seems the most sensible approach to avoid the situation.

 

Besides, I thought we never had this effect on UK general elections, hence we never get the government we vote for?

[LY_Scott]

Very rarely Ross yes. But it'll be another tight one for the Tories in 2015 with the rise of UKIP. Frankly its pretty secondary to what's happening Thursday.

[LY_Scott]

Oh and here's that cost cutting privatisation that isn't honestly ever happening gov http://www.mirror.co...merican-4256872

[Rosssco]

Its secondary for us, currently, yes...

 

Ah, the Mirror... MSM scare story maybe? Perhaps you missed the NHS Scotland and devolution part...

[LY_Scott]

Ah Ross...... You don't understand how NHS Scotland is funded? All the control in the world is hopeless if the budget is cut.