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[2GOOD]

I have a factory fit Miltek on mine. It came off a VXR220. I'm worried too now

Again, no such thing as a factory fit sports exhaust, they were all only ever dealer fit.

[VIX]

IIRC, wasn't the VXR220 effectively a limited number of pre-registered VXTs with dealer mods?

[2GOOD]

IIRC, wasn't the VXR220 effectively a limited number of pre-registered VXTs with dealer mods?

Lotus Sport mods done at Hethel, IIRC 50 had to be registered by the owners before they were touched by Lotus Sport & 15 could be built then registered afterwards. I think I was told a standard VXT went down the production line missing a few bits, although they must've fitted the engine with the hybrid turbo & the ABS on the production line, can't imagine that they would've changed that afterwards.

But the Milltek back box was definetly a dealer fit.

Edited by 2GOOD, 19 February 2012 - 04:21 PM.

[ianrm]

Only ever fitted 1 Miltek back box, would've been more but somebody had a minimum order quantity of 3 at a time*.

*3 at a time to make it worthwhile

I wonder who that was ?


I can confirm that the Milltek was NEVER a factory fit option. It was a dealer fit.

[2GOOD]

I wonder who that was ?

I wonder

[turbobob]

Interesting point about it being a dealer fit. Where does that leave a person with a dealer fit Miltek? Presumably nowhere with no leg to stand on.

[techieboy]

Interesting point about it being a dealer fit. Where does that leave a person with a dealer fit Miltek? Presumably nowhere with no leg to stand on.

Up sh!t creek with no paddle, if somebody were to take exception which they're never going to do with a Milltek anyway. A Larini maybe but not a Milltek, unless half of it has fallen off.

Has anyone got a certificate of conformity for their VX to hand? Apparently, it might have a manufacturers db reading on it, although this may be for newer cars only.

[ghand]

Just read that the db reading has to be taken on a near football size tarmac area with no obstructions, so a road side test is not a true reading.Suppose you can get reflected noise from walls or other cars.So I think I would want my day in court.

[techieboy]

But so what. The Section 59 "ASBO" notice doesn't need any kind of reading at all. It doesn't matter if the exhaust measures 20dB or 200dB if, in the opinion of the police officer, it's too loud and causing a nuisance/offence to someone. They can issue a notice and if it happens again, they can seize the car and you'll have to pay to get it back. That's a much bigger worry as it just relies on the untrained ear of any police officer or PCSO.

[ghand]

Well the guy with WRX pro drive had his day in court and it got threw out.You dont have to accept the notice

[PaulCP]

Some interesting views on this on Pistonheads One interpretation of the regs is that "cars with not less than 75kw/ 1000kilos" (vx220 & Elises) can only be tested in 3rd gear whilst another suggest the regs state that "the static test must be carried out in open space so as to not take in noise from passing vehicles etc" (if I've read them correctly)

Edited by PaulCP, 19 February 2012 - 05:31 PM.

[ghand]

Yes ,open space,no obstructions,500mm away at 45 degres,two thirds safe max RPM and an interesting one is the meter should not be set for low frequency as used to measure music but for human ear range frequency,what ever thats all about.So open space is not road side. The limits seem to be 100db but its seems a grey area I dont think they have a legal limit ?

[ghand]

But so what.

The Section 59 "ASBO" notice doesn't need any kind of reading at all. It doesn't matter if the exhaust measures 20dB or 200dB if, in the opinion of the police officer, it's too loud and causing a nuisance/offence to someone. They can issue a notice and if it happens again, they can seize the car and you'll have to pay to get it back. That's a much bigger worry as it just relies on the untrained ear of any police officer or PCSO.

Not sure but I think the 59 asbo needs two complaints,or so I was told

[davemate]

thanks all for taking such an interest. I am going to take a trip down to the station in office hours to get more informaiton. I am going with an open mind and not to be confrontational, but to get a clear understanding on the grey areas and in some writing of the regs. Was is seloc, or LOT that has legal advice included with the yearly subscription?

[KurtVerbose]

Let's hope we haven't seen the last of this: -

2.5" exhaust brought me up to 262.8bhp

[chris_uk]

i dont know if this has been asked, i cant really be arsed to read all the pages.. ( i read the first ) how did the copper know it was louder than factory? I know that might seem daft to us who are in the know but did he have a sheet telling him what all the factory noise results were from the manufacturers? If he didnt then how could he issue you with a fixed penalty?

[Deadude]

Were you actually given a S59? If you were i would probably contest it by ringing/writing to the local police station, i have had two friends who were both pretty much unfairly given them for really trivial things (one for going over a speed bump too fast) and both of them were removed after they contested them.

[CocoPops]

Interested to see how this pans out.... Good luck dave.

[ghand]

Were you actually given a S59? If you were i would probably contest it by ringing/writing to the local police station, i have had two friends who were both pretty much unfairly given them for really trivial things (one for going over a speed bump too fast) and both of them were removed after they contested them.

I contested mine,Left the car in an unsafe condition(hand brake not on)

The door was not locked so I just said kids may have been in the car and removed the hand brake as a few bob in coins went missing from the car

Asked for a court rule and am still waiting three years later

They only take on a case they are sure to win.

Edited by ghand, 19 February 2012 - 10:11 PM.

[davemate]

i dont know if this has been asked, i cant really be arsed to read all the pages.. ( i read the first )

how did the copper know it was louder than factory? I know that might seem daft to us who are in the know but did he have a sheet telling him what all the factory noise results were from the manufacturers? If he didnt then how could he issue you with a fixed penalty?

it wasnt so much that i was louder than factory, but over the limit for noise that the "guidelines" state.... of which i havent been able to work out (and hope to when i go down), where guidelines becomes law. The other thing i will ask is about the standard noise limit, as I think they will need to prove that i am over the standard noise limit for them to call this into force. using the example of tvr etc that leave factory louder than my car.

If i had been racing up and down a built up area, or reving it needlessly, but it was at 11:30 in the morning on a sunday on the a14.