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[NickB787]

Would be great if it was a little bit cheaper though, truthfully. wonder if it will come down with a group buy

Edited by NickB777, 18 January 2013 - 11:26 AM.

[LY_Scott]

The cost is not cheap. €875.00 so approx £750.00. No fitting or mapping costs though.

Ouch

[techieboy]

Yep, that price is a killer for something that is only any use on the Z22SE. You'd have to be pretty committed to never putting something else in the car and using a standalone.

[fezzasus]

Group buy? I'll have to think about this, my current plan is a solid stage 2 and leave it there, reality will probably be much more incremental and expensive. The convenience and control is one thing, but it's all about offsetting cost of time and cost of getting to courtneys vs. the initial cost here.

[Baron Von Scubadaddy]

In coming !!!!!!! So ? would this mean that I could fit my 2.4 inlet and 65mm TB and all would be better ? If I then latter added cams would it learn those ? Where do I sign ?

Edited by Baron Von Scubadaddy, 18 January 2013 - 11:34 AM.

[oakmere]

Yea good isn't it, I am awaiting a reply to some questions I sent to Peter, great thing about this is it is an oem setup so no rewiring required and all oem things will continue to work.

Be nice to think it will handle the harrop ok

Sorry Nick I have a feeling Peter may have a few emails this weekend. If he can map for your car then at least we will know it will work for all other levels of modifications.

[rob999]

Good news for you Z22 boys at long last. Got to be cheaper than standalone?

[techieboy]

So ?
would this mean that I could fit my 2.4 inlet and 65mm TB and all would be better ?

Yes.

[LY_Scott]

Shame if it was cheaper we'd end up with pretty decent maps to share with shared testing. Not that it affects me a massive deal but I'd be up for a fiddle...(fnnarr)

[oakmere]

So ?
would this mean that I could fit my 2.4 inlet and 65mm TB and all would be better ?

Yes.

Stick the LSJ injectors on as well as the standards are being pushed to the limit.

[techieboy]

Got to be cheaper than standalone?

Depends, some decent standalone's available for £500-£600 but you've got the "drive by wire" issue or the lack of support at that price point. But a standalone is mobile and will work on (just about) any engine and with any level of modification.

[vocky]

you should compare the £750 of this firmware with the cost of fitting a new ecu and loom, not just a simple remap

Do not forget Peter has spent about two years developing this

[techieboy]

not just a simple remap

I've never had a simple remap, yet. If only.

[LY_Scott]

I apologise, I'm scottish, I like to pay for everything in exchange for glass cheques. Anymore than three bags and i'm haggling.

[vocky]

There is nothing like a factory fresh map on a tuned engine, the difference between the (locked) factory z22se ecu and my standalone ecu was night and day on the same engine (although I also fitted throttle bodies at the same time I doubt the actual power changed very much)

[oakmere]

There is also the constant development. Peter will be fitting Cams to his car later this year. This will allow him to look further into the idle issues with uprated Cams.

[FLD]

Got to be cheaper than standalone?

Depends, some decent standalone's available for £500-£600 but you've got the "drive by wire" issue or the lack of support at that price point. But a standalone is mobile and will work on (just about) any engine and with any level of modification.

I've yet to see a decent standalone at that price. Whilst there are some out there with good functionality when you start tinkering they aren't that great. I found that if you set a timing figure in the map then put a timing light on the engine the actual timing tends to float around roughly where it was set. With a more expensive one (motec etc) or OEM then the set timing figure is exactly what you get. this sort of thing gets more important the higher the sate of tune (and the more you've spent on the engine guts to get it there)

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Will you be able to have more than 1 map

Edited by Chill, 18 January 2013 - 11:54 AM.

[LY_Scott]

Sounds like you can save them to your PC.

[oakmere]

Will you be able to haven't e than 1 map

Not on the ECU but you can store as many maps as you want on the PC then download onto the ECU. The upload time is only a few seconds so don't think it will take any longer to download. It is much quicker than a standard remap because only the data is sent not the full firmware.