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[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I was wondering if I will make more power by opening up the RPM A little I saw a drop off at 6900 before change But now I'm see further power to the limiter

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 10 January 2014 - 08:59 PM.

[haggi961]

Anyone got the guide for when I come to fit my map sensor. I've seen it somewhere but can't remember where.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Anyone got the guide for when I come to fit my map sensor. I've seen it somewhere but can't remember where.

If it's Tmap its in instructions, Can't link it as I'm on phone at a B day party

[haggi961]

Yeah it is so will have a flick through. I can remember about taking one wire from the air temp sensor or something like that.

[leevx2.2]

Here you go

[haggi961]

Thanks lee.

[Baron Von Scubadaddy]

been away from this thread and site a while

so what do we think about this ecu option ?

is it worth doing even if you just fit the 2.4 manifold ??

a must for sc'ing ?

worth a laugh even on a standard car ????

 

Edited by Baron Von Scubadaddy, 16 January 2014 - 11:08 PM.

[smiley]

I would say no for NA (silly), and No for 2.4 (just get a CS map it, or live with the new behaviour)

For SC it's definitly a must, as the current used CS/klasen/hitec/dbilas mapping is a compromise with some quirks.

To verify the last, just ask anybody here who has switched to obdtuner on their SC.

 

Edited by smiley, 16 January 2014 - 11:33 PM.

[JG]

Chaps got a quick question.
I've taken the plunge and money and ECUs are on their way to Holland
Peter has come back to me asking for my spec which is the regular CS setup and said the following.
 
[font="arial;"]I think the MAP sensors from Courtenay Sport cannot measure the boost[/font]
[font="arial;"]temperature, for this you will need a TMAP sensor from Bosch and you have[/font]
[font="arial;"]to modify your wiring loom to make it work[/font]
 
What's the modifications needed with the M62 in place to fit it?
I have the 2.5bar TMAP sensor in prep for the Harrop later, but if it's a benefit to fit it now and it's not to hard I'm thinking why not?

What was conclusion to this?

[ufods]

In short: using TMAP

[alexb]

Somewhat longer answer. Use TMAP when you track. I've been on MAP and IAT for far over a year now in complete ignorance and never had an issue. But I don't track. That means WOT 1% of the time and the engine bay doesn't get heat soaked. As OBDTuner calculates air density using the IAT, it thinks the air is cooler than it actually is, which comes down to overfueling. With an IAT of 20C and a real T after SC of 60C it comes down to about 10% overfueling. That's not too bad (I think). And I don't think that under normal conditions (driving not to far from legal limits in NL or the UK) you'll reach 60C.

 

I'm about to order a TMAP sensor and put it in, but that's more because I'm looking for something to do

[JG]

Does the CS map mind it being a TMAP rather than the usual MAP sensor?

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Standard 2.0 Delphi map sensor 2.5 bosch Tmap sensor Probably need recalabrarion from CS Or Just use drop down box on obd tuner

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 17 January 2014 - 10:18 AM.

[oakmere]

Why dose the IAT sensor read above ambient? I assume it is heat soak in the sensor as I can't see how engine bay temps could transfer to the intake quickly enough.

[JG]

I see. So actually swapping between OBDtuner and CS ECUs would actually ba bit if a challenge? Another question, Would OBEtuner be able to identify an under-performing fuel pump?

[smiley]

I see. So actually swapping between OBDtuner and CS ECUs would actually ba bit if a challenge?

 

Yes, once converted to Peter flash, it's no longer a "normal" ecu. Even opel/vauxhall cannot access Peters part.

That is why using a spare ecu is so handy.

[Bargi]

 

Chaps got a quick question.
I've taken the plunge and money and ECUs are on their way to Holland
Peter has come back to me asking for my spec which is the regular CS setup and said the following.
 
[font="arial;"]I think the MAP sensors from Courtenay Sport cannot measure the boost[/font]
[font="arial;"]temperature, for this you will need a TMAP sensor from Bosch and you have[/font]
[font="arial;"]to modify your wiring loom to make it work[/font]
 
What's the modifications needed with the M62 in place to fit it?
I have the 2.5bar TMAP sensor in prep for the Harrop later, but if it's a benefit to fit it now and it's not to hard I'm thinking why not?

What was conclusion to this?

 

 

I simply stuck with the standard CS setup with the MAP sensor and ran Peters software as I wanted to keep everything the same initially in case I had issues. (which it turns out I have)

 

 

Does the CS map mind it being a TMAP rather than the usual MAP sensor?

 

Not sure, but I think Lee is or did run a TMAP on a CS map

 

I see. So actually swapping between OBDtuner and CS ECUs would actually ba bit if a challenge?


Another question, Would OBEtuner be able to identify an under-performing fuel pump?

 

If you leave the MAP sensor and configure Peters software for it you can swap back and forth with your CS map ECU not problem.

I've had to do this as Peters software has shown up some issues/errors with my second O2 and potentially Crank sensor that the CS map seems to ignore. 

 

If Peter can diagnose Nicks rad fans running in reverse I'm sure he could pick a failing fuel pump  

There is a logging mode that pulls a lot of info, you could do a run with full logging and see what shows up.

 

What's the symptoms you're seeing? it's not the misfire you got before the bigger fuel tank?

[Kieran McC]

 

 

Chaps got a quick question.
I've taken the plunge and money and ECUs are on their way to Holland
Peter has come back to me asking for my spec which is the regular CS setup and said the following.
 
[font="arial;"]I think the MAP sensors from Courtenay Sport cannot measure the boost[/font]
[font="arial;"]temperature, for this you will need a TMAP sensor from Bosch and you have[/font]
[font="arial;"]to modify your wiring loom to make it work[/font]
 
What's the modifications needed with the M62 in place to fit it?
I have the 2.5bar TMAP sensor in prep for the Harrop later, but if it's a benefit to fit it now and it's not to hard I'm thinking why not?

What was conclusion to this?

 

 

I simply stuck with the standard CS setup with the MAP sensor and ran Peters software as I wanted to keep everything the same initially in case I had issues. (which it turns out I have)

 

 

Does the CS map mind it being a TMAP rather than the usual MAP sensor?

 

Not sure, but I think Lee is or did run a TMAP on a CS map

 

I see. So actually swapping between OBDtuner and CS ECUs would actually ba bit if a challenge?


Another question, Would OBEtuner be able to identify an under-performing fuel pump?

 

If you leave the MAP sensor and configure Peters software for it you can swap back and forth with your CS map ECU not problem.

I've had to do this as Peters software has shown up some issues/errors with my second O2 and potentially Crank sensor that the CS map seems to ignore. 

 

If Peter can diagnose Nicks rad fans running in reverse I'm sure he could pick a failing fuel pump

There is a logging mode that pulls a lot of info, you could do a run with full logging and see what shows up.

 

What's the symptoms you're seeing? it's not the misfire you got before the bigger fuel tank?

 

Ray Pm me your phone no I will have a chat

[JG]

No issues Ray I fancy doing a straight comparison between CS and OBDtuner and am booked in at CS in 3 months time for some RR time. I've got a spare ECU so thought I might as well get Peter's software on there, but it would need to be swappable as I'm more happy with my CS setup.

[CocoPops]

I would definitely like to see a shootout between CS maps and OBDTuner maps.

 

Same RR, Same day.