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[leevx2.2]

ok lets start a list of poss interested owners so Peter can see how many of us uk guys are interested

1. Scubabatty
2. Chill
3. Leevx2.2
4. SuperJohn (Formerly -Turbo)

Superjohn love it lol

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Would Peter have to have the ECU back if I bought the software for my standard NA then went SC
And if so what costs would be involved

In theory no. You can simply create your own map or just get one of us SC boys to send you our maps.

If I was going to do it alone, Peter would have to put something safe as map before self mapping

You will get your ECU back with a map based on your modifications.

So if you change mods you would have to send to Peter then get your starter map for new mods
Will this be a other £750 or just a upgrade cost

No you can change them yourself for free

Thanks for clearing that up

[s-express]

1. Scubabatty 2. Chill 3. Leevx2.2 4. SuperJohn (Formerly -Turbo) 5. ArticMonkey 6. S-Express

[CocoPops]

Thanks for the email Lee.

[Jason]

1. Scubabatty 2. Chill 3. Leevx2.2 4. SuperJohn (Formerly -Turbo) 5. ArticMonkey 6. S-Express 7. Jason (At lower price only..)

[TheHood]

During the self learning process what AFR is targeted? If it's lambda 1 (14.7 stoic) as seems logical given the fact it's a narrow band sensor, isn't that lean for boosted engines? Esecially with the z22se exhaust valves reputedly not liking high EGT's....

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Hmm. Proper software for our ECU that offers full tuning parameters, I take it the developer had the DAMOS file? Before I risk my car and race engine and money on this, I would want to be 100% convinced that this is the solution it offers to be. I don't have a lot of time as testing starts the beginning of March and it would need to be in and running spot on before the 17th March; either that or I will need to have the standalone fitted (which I already have BTW) and mapped. What reassurance can an unconvinced racer get?

[slindborg]

Hmm. Proper software for our ECU that offers full tuning parameters, I take it the developer had the DAMOS file?

Before I risk my car and race engine and money on this, I would want to be 100% convinced that this is the solution it offers to be.

I don't have a lot of time as testing starts the beginning of March and it would need to be in and running spot on before the 17th March; either that or I will need to have the standalone fitted (which I already have BTW) and mapped.

What reassurance can an unconvinced racer get?

Why change if you already have an aftermarket unit on? If its sh*t then slap the fcuk out of whoever calibrated it.

[Jason]

Well he would have to be pretty confident in his product if it does not work for you application thats a lot of bad press quickly killing his market. If you break destroy you engine its very public in a Race Series..

[slindborg]

Well he would have to be pretty confident in his product if it does not work for you application thats a lot of bad press quickly killing his market. If you break destroy you engine its very public in a Race Series..

Ahh. the fun and games in this bit of the market.... Was it the software being bad or the calibration being bad that killed it (hypothetically of course)

A good calibrator can make a megasquirt run like an oem unit, and a p*ss poor calibrator could make this or a high end aftermarket unit run like a sack of sh*t.

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Hmm. Proper software for our ECU that offers full tuning parameters, I take it the developer had the DAMOS file?

Before I risk my car and race engine and money on this, I would want to be 100% convinced that this is the solution it offers to be.

I don't have a lot of time as testing starts the beginning of March and it would need to be in and running spot on before the 17th March; either that or I will need to have the standalone fitted (which I already have BTW) and mapped.

What reassurance can an unconvinced racer get?

Why change if you already have an aftermarket unit on? If its sh*t then slap the fcuk out of whoever calibrated it.

Coz the aftermarket one is not yet fitted and I am not financially committed to it yet.

[slindborg]

IMHO if you don't have time on your side then this might not be the ideal short term solution. I k ow its not hard to master but it is a little different to the way most aftermarket software is calibrated... As such finding a genuinely good and experienced person to sort it in 8-10 weeks is gonna be a euro trip or stay with the alternative PCM.

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Well he would have to be pretty confident in his product if it does not work for you application thats a lot of bad press quickly killing his market. If you break destroy you engine its very public in a Race Series..

Sorry Jason but as Slindy points out. There is little or no recourse on anything in the upgrade parts market.

It would be a case of who is to blame and that argument would never get resolved as the mapper blames the software and the software guy blames the mapper.

If it does what it says it does then I am up for proving this in the UK on a pretty high spec and high profile Z22SE VX220 but I clearly need reassurance.

Come on Stu, I trust your judgement.

[Bargi]

Hmm. Proper software for our ECU that offers full tuning parameters, I take it the developer had the DAMOS file?

Before I risk my car and race engine and money on this, I would want to be 100% convinced that this is the solution it offers to be.

I don't have a lot of time as testing starts the beginning of March and it would need to be in and running spot on before the 17th March; either that or I will need to have the standalone fitted (which I already have BTW) and mapped.

What reassurance can an unconvinced racer get?

Why change if you already have an aftermarket unit on? If its sh*t then slap the fcuk out of whoever calibrated it.

Coz the aftermarket one is not yet fitted and I am not financially committed to it yet.

I would think you'd want to go with the most supportable option available to you which would be your current aftermarket one.

[vocky]

Personally Mr Cliffie I would leave the current ecu / mapping alone until you have got used to the other upgrades, then get this upgrade on a spare ecu - which can be mapped when you have the spare time

Edited by vocky, 20 January 2013 - 08:32 PM.

[techieboy]

It's a quicker and easier fix than any aftermarket Mike. As long as 7800rpm is enough for you, which I assume it is, it retains drive-by-wire, no external crank trigger needed, OEM loom, OEM sensors and coil packs which might be handy come the paddock. Plus it adds support for the TMAP sensor and the real IAT monitoring. But, you'll need to be able to drive your car for at least a couple of hours somewhere to calibrate it all - which somewhere like the Brunters pay by the hour setup would work a treat for. Aftermarket may be more flexible in the long term but it just seems like a big learning curve on the installation and base calibration to start with.

[slindborg]

I'd say short term getting an aftermarket unit on and setup would be fast and good enough for a race car. Swings and roundabouts but for a march running date its cutting it fine to find someone willing to learn howto setup this method.

[fezzasus]

1. Scubabatty 2. Chill 3. Leevx2.2 4. SuperJohn (Formerly -Turbo) 5. ArticMonkey 6. S-Express 7. Jason (At lower price only..) 8. Fezzasus

[ArticMonkey]

Reading through the PDF lee sent out. You can also delete the lambda sensors for those running without a cat. Just some info.

[Bargi]

1. Scubabatty 2. Chill 3. Leevx2.2 4. SuperJohn (Formerly -Turbo) 5. ArticMonkey 6. S-Express 7. Jason (At lower price only..) 8. Fezzasus 9. Bargi