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[fezzasus]

Well the two aren't completely separate. Mike's 1st year in Time Attack is a good example of that, where one Gaz Mono kept losing clicks. That's the poorer quality directly impacting performance.

[Nev]

I drove a stage 2 S/C'ed car at the weekend, was quite surprised by how fast it felt. I think once you get to 250 BHP onwards the handling + brakes are just as important as the power.

 

Chill, the first things Id say to you is to swap out the coilovers for something more recognised as being good and then geo it youself. Experimenting with the geo yourself and finding out what you like/don't llike is easy, rewarding, free and might improve the handling no end.

 

Also, seriously consider putting some bags of gravel etc in the battery compartment, just an extra 6 to 10 KG of extra weight can really improve the handling.

Edited by Nev, 01 June 2015 - 12:18 PM.

[Acidpopstar]

Gravel. So that's where we've all been going wrong.

[chris_uk]

Hahaha.

[fezzasus]

lol. Taking handling advice from Nev is akin to asking Jimmy Saville for parenting tips.

[chris_uk]

I have to admit joe, at one time i would of defended gaz but recently after seeing piston rods snapping, people having 3 sets in 16 months.. I find it harder to put an argument forward in defence. But from a performance pov the monos are deffinatly good enough for anyone as an out of the box solution, i doubt many who buy 2 way shocks etc know what they are doing anyway and will just never touch it anyway. I havent had serious issues with mine, ive had a leaky one which was replaced foc and not had a problem since. If i was going to rebuy again i probably would go for a 2way quantum shock.

[The Batman]

I have 2 way nitrons I adjusted them on track once I have no idea what I'm doing though but I don't mind trial and error with making stiffer/softer Part of the fun for me I agree with you on the basis that if they aren't broken they will be fine but the worry will always be there. That's not to say nitron or q will fail

[ArticMonkey]

There's your first cheap mod chill. Go down to your local T@P for a bag of ballast. Simple!

[FLD]

I have 2 way nitrons I adjusted them on track once I have no idea what I'm doing though but I don't mind trial and error with making stiffer/softer Part of the fun for me I agree with you on the basis that if they aren't broken they will be fine but the worry will always be there. That's not to say nitron or q will fail

 

I have a guide somewhere on setting up multiway dampers.  You want it?

[The Batman]

Yeah go for it Will read at work lol

[Nev]

lol. Taking handling advice from Nev is akin to asking Jimmy Saville for parenting tips.

Get back in your box you cantankerous arse, I know more about VX220 handling than most of the people on here. To others, it is common place to counter balance axel weights with ballast on front/rear biased cars, and has been done numerouos times to great effect over the years, from Hillman Imps to Porsches. If people actually listened and tried stuff instead of just typing silly retorts to suggestions they might just find their cars go better.

Edited by Nev, 01 June 2015 - 02:43 PM.

[leevx2.2]

Its a hard one really i think i am at the level now to leave alone power etc don't need no more just need to learn how to drive mine to its limits, as the car is way better than me .

If i was you leave the Harrop on  save some pennies first put an 1 inch anti roll bar on set it to max ,will make a big difference then if you still are not happy change the shocks .

[fezzasus]

 

lol. Taking handling advice from Nev is akin to asking Jimmy Saville for parenting tips.

Get back in your box you cantankerous arse, I know more about VX220 handling than most of the people on here.

 

 

Really? Can you demonstrate that with any lap times?

 

Before suggesting any modifications like that, I would have asked for corner weighting, furthermore, the examples you give for cars needing weighting are rear engined, not mid engined. The weight distribution is significantly better for a VX.

Edited by fezzasus, 01 June 2015 - 03:27 PM.

[chris_uk]

Where the fcuk has that popcorn.gif gone!!

[Nev]

lol. Taking handling advice from Nev is akin to asking Jimmy Saville for parenting tips.

Get back in your box you cantankerous arse, I know more about VX220 handling than most of the people on here.

  Really? Can you demonstrate that with any lap times?   Before suggesting any modifications like that, I would have asked for corner weighting, furthermore, the examples you give for cars needing weighting are rear engined, not mid engined. The weight distribution is significantly better for a VX.

You always have to argue and waffle on with this that and the other. The fact remains, I added weight onto my front axle and was pleasantly surprised by better initial turn in. Therefore I am passing on a tip that may possibly help Chill and would cost peanuts to try. I don't need to drive round in circles with a stopwatch to prove it, I could plainly feel the improvement instantly.

Edited by Nev, 01 June 2015 - 04:31 PM.

[Nev]

Where the fcuk has that popcorn.gif gone!!

I think it got burnt out when Jimmy had his 1 year Nitron argument with that horrible Scuffham man

[Mr Apex]

I can confirm that:

1. Nev drives his car extremely quickly.

2. Nipper handles well. Challenging, but immense grip, good balance and surprisingly compliant ride.

3. The aero on his car works

4. The brakes are currently crap

5. The heavier brakes do seem to have improved front end stability. It could be due to a significant amount more flywheel affect though, rather than just weight distribution

6. Nev can't help the fact that he chose a turdo. SC cars are obviously far superior

 

[fezzasus]

 

You always have to argue and waffle on with this that and the other. The fact remains, I added weight onto my front axle and was pleasantly surprised by better initial turn in. Therefore I am passing on a tip that may possibly help Chill and would cost peanuts to try. I don't need to drive round in circles with a stopwatch to prove it, I could plainly feel the improvement instantly.

 

 

You're a quack. That simple. You read things online and regurgitate them, and now you're a self proclaimed expert on handling without ever having put your car on track. Its getting tiring.

 

Did either of the time attack VX220s ever employ gravel as a handling trick? 

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

at least its lighting up the thread 

but would like you now to take it else where 

[fezzasus]

Sorry Chris.

 

There's nothing too unique about your weight or setup of the car, no point going to extremes. Obviously you've seen the settings on the dampers aren't ideal so that's something to rectify. The way I treat suspension is that it holds it's value if you buy well known products, so there's little to lose by going for something better. The thicker antiroll bar is also a good investment, and shouldn't have any downsides.

 

Only then I would I look at more extreme approaches. The fact is there are a lot of supercharged cars which can manage a decent setup without adding ballast.