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#21 techieboy

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:41 PM


I'd have only paid for the chain to be replaced. The rest of them are straightforward DIY jobs, though slightly awkward in the case of the steering rack.



Steering rack and shock collars have been done by PSR mate.

I am going to have to attempt a timing, balance chain and OSR hub only.

Sorry if I didn't make that clear. :)


No no you did make it clear. It's just the only job on that list that I'd have paid somebody to do professionally, would have been the chains. Anything else I'd have tackled myself in the first place (steering rack replacement was the first job I DIY'd on the VX and has led to all sorts of things since - not least every tool imaginable in the garage :wacko: ), as they're not anywhere near as complex as the chain replacement.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:43 PM


I thought the wheel hub was not too tougher job?


Not at all hard, if it's a front hub that needs replacing. Only three or maybe four bolts to undo, once the wheel and brake disk are off.


It's a rear hub, OSR to be precise, according to Dan at PSR. Is this more doom and gloom then?

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:46 PM

Fcuk me. 400 to change the collars!?!! Glad I opted to fit 111r suspenders.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:02 PM

I've done all those jobs on my car over the last few years (well, techie did the wheel bearing while I watched!). I had no previous experience working on cars other than leaning an air filter :) The timing chain isn't hard, and I didn't need any special tools (used a 10mm drill but through one of the holes in the timing gear to stop the cam rotating). I wouldn't fancy doing it with the clam on though. Once the rear is up on axle stands and the front well chocked you just need a jack with a decent reach and a large bar to move the engine over enough to get the awkward bolt out I think there are some pics in my project thread :)

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:03 PM

It's a rear hub, OSR to be precise, according to Dan at PSR. Is this more doom and gloom then?


It's more complicated as it'll mean getting the driveshaft out of the hub first , whereas the fronts obviously don't have that issue. Access is also a bit harder but still eminently DIY'able. I replaced all of my hubs when I did my suspension refresh and it was hard work separating them from the uprights/carriers due to plenty of years and miles worth of corrosion. With hindsight, I should probably have invested in a hub puller of some form as other people on here have reported success with them.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:03 PM

Fcuk me. 400 to change the collars!?!! Glad I opted to fit 111r suspenders.


£320 labour (-15% discount for doing all four) + £70 parts + 20% VAT.

I had to sit down quickly!!

Big mistake, but thought the chain was not going to need changing based on the best evidence at that time.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:13 PM

I've done all those jobs on my car over the last few years (well, techie did the wheel bearing while I watched!). I had no previous experience working on cars other than leaning an air filter :)
The timing chain isn't hard, and I didn't need any special tools (used a 10mm drill but through one of the holes in the timing gear to stop the cam rotating). I wouldn't fancy doing it with the clam on though.
Once the rear is up on axle stands and the front well chocked you just need a jack with a decent reach and a large bar to move the engine over enough to get the awkward bolt out
I think there are some pics in my project thread :)


Thanks mate. I'll take a look and see how much it scares me! :)

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:26 PM

I changed a rear hub but annoyingly turned out to be a break in the wire further up and not the hub that was giving the abs light. Rear was pita, hard getting it off spline.Actually was impossible for me till I got a puller. It was character building with lots of effin and jeffin.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:51 PM


Fcuk me. 400 to change the collars!?!! Glad I opted to fit 111r suspenders.


£320 labour (-15% discount for doing all four) + £70 parts + 20% VAT.

I had to sit down quickly!!

Big mistake, but thought the chain was not going to need changing based on the best evidence at that time.


I know it's not of any help now but post up here before spending out in future. I've got a set of standard billies you could of had in exchange for beer money. If you'd have driven to Brighton I'd have fitted them to. Can't have VX off the road just when the weather finally turns nice.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:01 PM

Jeez, what nice people you all are.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:05 PM

I've got a puller if you want to borrow (assuming it's big enough), but never had a problem getting a shaft out before (have air gun, compressor etc). Only thing I've not got much of is time.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:05 PM

Jeez, what nice people you all are.

In a world full of utter sh*t it is such a refreshing change :thumbsup:

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:32 PM


Fcuk me. 400 to change the collars!?!! Glad I opted to fit 111r suspenders.


£320 labour (-15% discount for doing all four) + £70 parts + 20% VAT.

I had to sit down quickly!!

Big mistake, but thought the chain was not going to need changing based on the best evidence at that time.


God how long did it take them?!!

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:24 PM

I've got a puller if you want to borrow (assuming it's big enough), but never had a problem getting a shaft out before (have air gun, compressor etc).

Only thing I've not got much of is time.


Cheers Alex.

I'll let you know, but a puller is a must at some stage it seems. I might be able to get one loaned from a mate locally. Everyone is being really helpful. It's what i love about .org

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:30 PM

I changed a rear hub but annoyingly turned out to be a break in the wire further up and not the hub that was giving the abs light. Rear was pita, hard getting it off spline.Actually was impossible for me till I got a puller. It was character building with lots of effin and jeffin.


Yeah. I'm gonna check the connection carefully first and the wire as I know from here that they aren't the greatest and fail. I really don't want to have to change a perfectly good hub unless I am absolutely certain.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:32 PM



Fcuk me. 400 to change the collars!?!! Glad I opted to fit 111r suspenders.


£320 labour (-15% discount for doing all four) + £70 parts + 20% VAT.

I had to sit down quickly!!

Big mistake, but thought the chain was not going to need changing based on the best evidence at that time.


God how long did it take them?!!


Must have been about 5 hours for all four.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:42 PM



Fcuk me. 400 to change the collars!?!! Glad I opted to fit 111r suspenders.


£320 labour (-15% discount for doing all four) + £70 parts + 20% VAT.

I had to sit down quickly!!

Big mistake, but thought the chain was not going to need changing based on the best evidence at that time.


I know it's not of any help now but post up here before spending out in future. I've got a set of standard billies you could of had in exchange for beer money. If you'd have driven to Brighton I'd have fitted them to. Can't have VX off the road just when the weather finally turns nice.


I kinda did....well sort of...

http://www.vx220.org...ndard-bilstein/

I Didn't know the cost though at the time. It's all about the timing. If I'd known the chain was definitely the culprit, and the symptoms aren't all the classic ones, I'd have sorted that first and waited on the shocks or done them myself later. I made the wrong decision. Simple as that.

Thanks for the offer albeit too late for me. Perhaps another VX'er might take you up on it though. :)

Edited by wanabee, 07 May 2013 - 10:43 PM.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:55 PM

Don't do the chain, pay vocky to do it for you.


What does a chain maestro charge for a chain change?

Edited by wanabee, 07 May 2013 - 10:55 PM.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:11 AM

Wouldn't know but maybe he'll do a group buy. :lol:

Edited by ArticMonkey, 08 May 2013 - 10:12 AM.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:31 AM

don't forget to replace both chain kits, the balancer chain tensioners are nearly always seized these days :huh: Might also be worth replacing the alternator belt tensioner, alt belt and the rubber engine mount




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