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[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I didn't even realise it was a option when I decided to go Dutch Thought it was a turbo thing, I thought I had two options courtenays route or Dutch

[Bargi]

Switchable multi maps

The one Dunc sells can switch between 2 maps on the fly. Dutchy isnt live.

2 mins it takes, And you can switch between any file you have saved or borrowed

But you don't need a laptop with the other ECU And so what if you don't ever change it, then point is you can!

[slindborg]

I'd be more hung up about other software features like a decent idle controller, part throttle smooooothness and so on. Seemingly the Dutch route is better than most.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I'd be more hung up about other software features like a decent idle controller, part throttle smooooothness and so on. Seemingly the Dutch route is better than most.

I agree but am byest

[JohnTurbo]

byest = orkshen? (tee hee hee - this abuse from a dyslexic).

 

 

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

byest = orkshen? (tee hee hee - this abuse from a dyslexic).    

The spell check on the iPhone never bought it up

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Is it reeeaaallllly that important to have switchable maps, given you won't ever fcuking use them 

It is for me. I would love the ability to have the chioce of pulleys to suit the circuits I go to and therefore would adore switchable maps. It would have saved us the balls up that was Snetterton this month.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Is it reeeaaallllly that important to have switchable maps, given you won't ever fcuking use them 

It is for me. I would love the ability to have the chioce of pulleys to suit the circuits I go to and therefore would adore switchable maps. It would have saved us the balls up that was Snetterton this month.

Have you bit the bullet then

Edited by Chill, 21 June 2013 - 07:42 AM.

[Exmantaa]

 

Is it reeeaaallllly that important to have switchable maps, given you won't ever fcuking use them 

It is for me. I would love the ability to have the chioce of pulleys to suit the circuits I go to and therefore would adore switchable maps. It would have saved us the balls up that was Snetterton this month.

 

 

It will take you far longer to mount-up a different size pulley then to load a new map into your ecu through the OBD port...   ;-)

(LSJ ecu = 43 seconds and I assume OBD will be not much different.)

[Mike (Cliffie)]

 

 

Is it reeeaaallllly that important to have switchable maps, given you won't ever fcuking use them 

It is for me. I would love the ability to have the chioce of pulleys to suit the circuits I go to and therefore would adore switchable maps. It would have saved us the balls up that was Snetterton this month.

Have you bit the bullet then

 

Nope, don't have £70 let alone £700 to try it out. I need to get to the end of the season first.

[slindborg]

Switchable is a stupid term in reality (bit like stage tuning )

 

yes have different calibration files to suit differing engine setups... but for most ECU's that would be enough stuff being different to warrant a new file to be flashed on rather than using a switch to jump to one different map.

And when you factor in the setup time for changing a pulley and re running on the dyno/track to set it up, thats not gonna be cheap

Edited by slindborg, 21 June 2013 - 10:10 AM.

[NickB787]

One option I would like to look at is a MOT friendly map, anyone know how this could be achieved?

[Bargi]

One option I would like to look at is a MOT friendly map, anyone know how this could be achieved?

This I'm interested in, could you run decat all the time and have a map calibrated for MOT time?

[techieboy]

Probably not. Think you'd still need a helpful MOT place but you'd be able to tune it get more sensible emissions (though you'd probably want a laptop with you to reload a different map for the way home), certainly better than my stage 3 and decat which I think just burns 50% of the fuel and fires the rest out of the back of the car.  

 

Would probably be able to squeeze through on a 100-cell cat okay though.

 

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

One option I would like to look at is a MOT friendly map, anyone know how this could be achieved?

I'm guessing you could put a lean map on it to get through MOT But I wouldent risk it, Maybe Peter could give you a rev limited map for MOT

[TheRealVXed]

With the dutch ECU you can map yourself right?

 

Buy a gas analyser and fiddle with the map in your garage until it passes...

[2deano5]

Or find a friendly MOT man an fiddle with his 

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Could also mess with ignition setting as well as maps For different track conditions

[slindborg]

Tbh, you SHOULD be able to have a balls out powwwaaahhhhhhh calibration which also has mot friendly idle and no load 3krpm emissions, obviously with a cat in place as there is shag all way you can pass a cat test without one (or a bent tester). If that's not the case then the chooner is a douchebag IMHO of course.

Edited by slindborg, 21 June 2013 - 12:04 PM.

[Exmantaa]

 

One option I would like to look at is a MOT friendly map, anyone know how this could be achieved?

I'm guessing you could put a lean map on it to get through MOT But I wouldent risk it, Maybe Peter could give you a rev limited map for MOT

 

 

Why do you need such a map?

 

It's mostly running in closed loop during MOT testing, so the O2 sensor should keep a 14.7 AFR. No problem, as long as you have a cat fiitted...

 

With decat pipe you could maybe try a full open loop setting with a lean map, but can imagine this will need some fiddling to pass.   :-/