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[oakmere]

Doubt it is the scanguage.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

 
That's interesting only put scanguage back in today,
Can you explain moor
 

 
Mark Verboom (http://www.verboom.n...ster/index.html figured this out at some point, many moons ago.
May i suggest to clear the code, disconect the scangauge and go for a blast to verify?

Yes I'm going to do that after GP

[smiley]

Doubt it is the scanguage.

 

% of succes on scangauge cause is indeed very small, but geeky smiley stores every code and fix he finds on the benelux, german and UK forums into his database. 

Scangauge cause has been found more then once on this code.

Edited by smiley, 07 July 2013 - 12:49 PM.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Doubt it is the scanguage.

It's worth checking

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Doubt it is the scanguage.

  % of succes on scangauge cause is indeed very small, but geeky smiley stores every code and fix he finds on the benelux, german and UK forums into his database.  Scangauge cause has been found more then once on this code.

Just quick question Does scanguage in above circumstances cause just faults or cause map sensor to break

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 07 July 2013 - 01:01 PM.

[techieboy]

Definitely worth checking, for the sake of unplugging it. If nothing else it will stop you get that occasional hiccough that you get when the ECU bogs down trying to send all of the data. You definitely need to bin the standard separate MAP and separate IAT sensor and move to a 2.5bar or 3.0bar TMAP sensor though. Being able to do that'll be payback for investing in OBDTuner.

[smiley]

It can throw a hissy fit to the ecu, generating the code when running more then 3 concurrent values.

It does not kill your map sensor afaik.

Edited by smiley, 07 July 2013 - 01:14 PM.

[techieboy]

Just quick question Does scanguage in above circumstances cause just faults or cause map sensor to break

Can't see how it can physically break the MAP sensor. It's a software bug in the OBD implementation in the ECU itself that's the problem.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

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It's a m62 3.1 pulley charger has some minor porting

Is there a way of working it out or do I need boost gauge[/quote]

Thanks, ordered and installed Torque Pro to my phone.
 
Hopefully will capture some data

 
 
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You need to bin that MAP sensor and fit the 2.5 bar or 3.0 bar TMAP sensor and do the necessary loom mods to run it and then reconfigure OBDTuner for it.

Do you have part numbers and place to get them cheers

[techieboy]

Do you have part numbers and place to get them cheers

Part numbers are in the MAP sensor dropdown on the Parameters tab in OBDTuner, or they're both in this thread. Should be stacks of them on fleaBay as they're used in just about every GM car known to mankind.

[leevx2.2]

I have a few map sensors here if you want me to send one ?

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Cheers lee, Might take you up on that but first. Tried scanguage thing it's not that... A few more facts to help diagnose, After removing gauge and resetting 1. Worked fine for two boost runs then it happened again but without EML light, Might not of had time to trigger yet

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

[attachment=24799:power.jpg]In order to get added boost values from your MAP sensor, assuming it's measured in kPa as it is on the NA, you subtract 100kPa (which is the background atmospheric pressure) from the absolute reading and then multiply by 0.14503773773020923 (probably don't need that level of accuracy   ) to get the actual added boost (i.e. what a boost gauge would display) in psi. Or multiply the kPa figure (less the 100kPa) by 0.01 to get the added boost in bar.

 

ok

 

assuming that KPA in the pic is right

180KPA-100KPA= 80KPA

 

80KPA X  0.145  = 11.6 Psi is this right

 

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 07 July 2013 - 02:24 PM.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

which is only 0.8 bar so the 2 bar delphi should be fine unless its not a 2 bar sensor???

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Just found this



But it is dependant on air presure/altitude presure and tempreture

And standard test conditions are only at 25degrees C
And at sea level

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 07 July 2013 - 03:26 PM.

[Arno]

Yeah.. You're probablly pretty close to the max on a 2 bar sender.

 

Normally MAP sensor ranges are indicated/viewed from vacuum, so a 2 bar sender can go from vacuum/-1bar  to +1 bar 'boost'..

 

As the lower end can't move (vacuum remains vacuum ) a 2.5 bar sensor will allow +1.5 bar 'boost'  and a 3 bar sensor will read max +2 bar.

 

But.. As already indicated on another thread by SimonS, once you get close to the upper end of the measurement range then the accuracy tends to drop off.

 

Bye, Arno.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Cheers Arno Air pressure is very high to today

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I have a few map sensors here if you want me to send one ?

Cheers for the offer lee but it looks like I'm going have to go to the 2.5 Tmap sensor, Does anyone no if the bosch 0 261 230 042 has the same plug as the Delphi 2.0 bar

[JohnTurbo]

I still think it smells of LOD.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I still think it smells of LOD.

What's lod