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[ghand]

Mud wrestle?

VX race ( with your choice of dampers , same power obviously)

[The Batman]

Cliffie vs jimmy! He can borrow my harrop

[Nev]

Isn't he just saying they still need to be over 426mm to eliminate fouling the wishbones? (Irrelevant of droop)

 

The issue with the upper rear wishbones fouling the chassis (if this is what you mean) and subsequently getting dinks in the top of them was due to the bump stop/rebound being in the wrong place. My car had one of the first sets of Nitrons for VX220's many years ago and suffered from this problem. When I discovered it a few years ago I contacted Nitron directly and negotiated a new set/refurb at heavily discounted price. They were pretty good/professional about it.

 

There is another (minorish) issue with the Nitron's too that nobody seems to have identified or mentioned. However I don't want to get drawn into this thread by talking about it.

 

Overall Nitrons work well in my opinion and the 1-ways provide enough range of control for the average driver to set his own car up by experimentation.

Edited by Nev, 06 September 2013 - 12:30 AM.

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

To be honest the actual issue is that they're around the 100mm stroke length it seems so if your open length is 395mm your droop available from normal ride heights is compramised and when you pass through the full stroke the wisbone travel fouls the wishbone.

 

The easy method of fixing this was to introduce bigger bump rubbers which limited your stroke where as the best method is to lengthen the open length to bring the entire 100mm stroke to within the wishbone limits.

 

The easy method used was still very much fit for purpose and as I've said has not generated a single complaint but captain chaos stirred up the sh*t as he's found a technical flaw.  There has been no denial that his tech talk has been correct (it has been, although slightly hypocritical) the arguement has been the whether this effects any of the current range of shocks Nitron sell.  Scuffers tarred the whole range of Nitrons shocks with this brush where is actually seems limited to 2009 spec 40's.  Post 2009 40's are fine, 46's are fine, NSS are fine.

 

I've spent a ton of time on this (for free) with Nitron and suffered the stress involved in many hours of defense of outrageous allegations and we've come to a very good solution that has been warmly accepted by every member who is actually effected.  The only person who still has a problem is Simon....

 

Why he considers this my responsibility is beyond me....?  BoT for instance (not passing the buck) sell more sets in a typical 3 month period than I've ever sold and no finger pointing has gone towards Gaz or Ohlins or Bilstien or any other manufacturors who all seem to be the same issue.....

 

He denies it but his main aim is to divert Nitron sales on this forum to Quantum.  He's closely affiliated to the main retailer of Quantums and he helped design them.  But he's not got any invested interest....?  Please!

 

I'm happy that Quantums seem a great option and have a good reputation.  I prefer my Nitrons though

 

Here's some beefy Nitrons and their cute little cousin

 

 

 

 

 

But I'm up for a mud wrestle if that's what he wants   Give me the right car and I'd be up for a race with Cliffie too   

[The Batman]

Alpha male nitrons and beta male quantums

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

Dirty bird Q's

[The Batman]

1.55am dance floor bird

[Kieran McC]

What is the turn around time for the upgrade Jimmy?

[leevx2.2]

Not a good pic really quantum zero's against top spec Nitron's .

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

Just what was coming off the car and going on Lee.  Pic was for the owners benefit but it shows the difference in size between any standard tubes and 46's

 

 

Kieran the bits are being adonised as we speak so depending on how we deal with all the refurbs etc hitting the workshop then it could take a while to get through all the sets.  Where are you on the list?. 

[The Batman]

I got Hoffmans nitrons do I send via him if I want a refurb? As they have been sitting for basically 2years with about 300miles in the middle of that! Or will they be alright?

Edited by The Batman, 06 September 2013 - 06:17 PM.

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

I don't think yours are 395's Joe but worth checking for sure.  Saying that they're at my place so if I get a chance I will whip one off and check.  No need to bother Chris with it as soon as they get the parts in and a dedicated tech to coordinate it their side then we can send them in 2 at a time till the list is done

[Kieran McC]

Just what was coming off the car and going on Lee.  Pic was for the owners benefit but it shows the difference in size between any standard tubes and 46's

 

 

Kieran the bits are being adonised as we speak so depending on how we deal with all the refurbs etc hitting the workshop then it could take a while to get through all the sets.  Where are you on the list?. 

I ll  rephrase that Paulcp" s

[The Batman]

Na didn't mean that I meant just a general refurb as they are getting on a bit with not much use

[Kieran McC]

 

Just what was coming off the car and going on Lee.  Pic was for the owners benefit but it shows the difference in size between any standard tubes and 46's

 

 

Kieran the bits are being adonised as we speak so depending on how we deal with all the refurbs etc hitting the workshop then it could take a while to get through all the sets.  Where are you on the list?. 

I ll  rephrase that Paulcp" s

Are the helper springs a extra purchase?

 

Edited by kieranmcc, 06 September 2013 - 06:57 PM.

[joshua]

To save me trawling this post again how much does the new eye end extend the damper body?

[Mike (Cliffie)]

I am up for a race against anybody.

[Nev]

I am up for a race against anybody.

 

Lend me your uprights to make it fair and square

[Mike (Cliffie)]

 

I am up for a race against anybody.

 

Lend me your uprights to make it fair and square

 

But if I lend you my uprights, what will I use?

 

Anyhow, you have twice as much torque as me so that makes up for it. As lons as the race involves at least two corners and two braking points, I am up for it Nev but if you just want a drag race then my tights are laddered.

[Nev]

You can borrow my engine if I can borrow your uprights and brakes - deal ?!