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#1 CHILL Gone DUTCH

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 06:21 PM

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 07:10 PM

No you need a wheel arch liner. Why not run it at full bhp and see how long it lasts, how do know the standard kit will not last a long time? Go on, destructive testing, you know it makes sense. :lol:

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 07:13 PM

I got arch linear on order nearly cost as much as these bad boys

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 07:53 PM

Get the pistons at the same time. It's false economy to only get the rods given the work involved.

 

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 07:55 PM

Would that not require head work etc etc

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 07:56 PM

No you need a wheel arch liner.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:01 PM

No you need a wheel arch liner.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:03 PM

Would that not require head work etc etc

 

No. changing the pistons will never require headwork. changing to a overbored piston will require a rebore, but you can buy standard size from that website which will drop straight in. given that you have to remove both the piston and conrod from the engine to fit the new conrods, it doesn't make sense to put a piston back in that can only cope with around 300 bhp when you're pushing 270/80 as it is.

 

BTW. I have smaller pulley wheels going spare if you go down this route.



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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:08 PM

Would that not require head work etc etc

  No. changing the pistons will never require headwork. changing to a overbored piston will require a rebore, but you can buy standard size from that website which will drop straight in. given that you have to remove both the piston and conrod from the engine to fit the new conrods, it doesn't make sense to put a piston back in that can only cope with around 300 bhp when you're pushing 270/80 as it is.   BTW. I have smaller pulley wheels going spare if you go down this route.
I've turned it down to 250 ish until I have done rods which I thought would allow me to go to 300 ponies if I could get the hardware right

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:17 PM

And I've got to get the engine temps down First cutting clam possibilities to get hot air out

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:46 PM

Winstar did some work which showed that fitting larger NACA ducts is the best way to increase engine airflow.

 

Probably the cheapest way to do it too.



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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:59 PM

Would that not require head work etc etc

  No. changing the pistons will never require headwork. changing to a overbored piston will require a rebore, but you can buy standard size from that website which will drop straight in. given that you have to remove both the piston and conrod from the engine to fit the new conrods, it doesn't make sense to put a piston back in that can only cope with around 300 bhp when you're pushing 270/80 as it is.   BTW. I have smaller pulley wheels going spare if you go down this route.
If that's 270/280 at the fly, then the pistons are already seeing 300bhp, if not more.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:09 PM

Winstar did some work which showed that fitting larger NACA ducts is the best way to increase engine airflow.   Probably the cheapest way to do it too.

Just done searches on this subject going to give them ago I have no ducts on my undertray Going to space of rear diffuser from clam to never even thought of this

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:12 PM

Winstar did some work which showed that fitting larger NACA ducts is the best way to increase engine airflow.   Probably the cheapest way to do it too.

Just done searches on this subject going to give them ago I have no ducts on my undertray
Pity it wasn't the rear liner you lost then :lol:

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:14 PM

 

Winstar did some work which showed that fitting larger NACA ducts is the best way to increase engine airflow.   Probably the cheapest way to do it too.

Just done searches on this subject going to give them ago I have no ducts on my undertray Going to space of rear diffuser from clam to never even thought of this

 

 

Replacement NACA ducts are £3 ish from Elise Shop (you'll need to find the part code), if that helps.



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Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:21 PM

 

Winstar did some work which showed that fitting larger NACA ducts is the best way to increase engine airflow.   Probably the cheapest way to do it too.

Just done searches on this subject going to give them ago I have no ducts on my undertray Going to space of rear diffuser from clam to never even thought of this  
  Replacement NACA ducts are £3 ish from Elise Shop (you'll need to find the part code), if that helps.
Do you need an under tray ? All the fast ish cars I had a long long time back did not have them. ( scotch fuelled question lol)

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:24 PM

Without under tray you would effect dynamics and rear of clam would be floppy

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:25 PM

Good question, and I think the answer is a speed dependant one. The flat underside of the car will aid aero, and has a secondary feature which is adding stiffness to the bodywork - an issue most cars don't have because they're metal. But that's only really going to start to matter at motorway speeds or greater.

 

There are people here who run, or have run, without under trays. Personally i don't see it as bad weight, or have an issue with cooling, so it stays on. It also protects the car from salt and grit.



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Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:28 PM

I can't help thinking that ducting higher up would be more effective

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:41 PM

Wow, £250 I offered seems way cheap if that's what they're worth less duty and shipping :D




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