756 replies to this topic

[Tony H]

I think I am in but will hold out until nearer the deadline as last time I had a rush of blood like this I bought another VX.   

 

So I will wait until I have gone a bit flaccid and make a calm decision.

[Graeme Lambert]

Any info where external trigger unit can be got ?

 

Rumour has it Welshiejon can make them. Was thinking if there's enough people interested we could try some sort of group buy.

 

Otherwise Hi-tec in Germany according to others on here. Might be more expensive though.

 

G

[ufods]

Hey Hello. I will own a b207 soon and i do not have an idea to solve the trigger wheel problem. But we should not forget about the fact, that we do not need only the right trigger wheel ( easy ). We need the exaxt position on the pulley and the exact position of the sensor.

[smiley]

 

  That was speedster4fun (dutch, and exmantaa's mate), and his was a C20LET (iirc).  But myself i am going for the harrop route on a stock B207R, with just some decent cams and a ported head. Let's see what happens.  

 

Def a Saab motor, he was running HP Tuners.

 

 

C20LET bottom, B207 head and LSJ ecu. HP Tuners on top.

 

On the C20 last 3 characters i'm not 100% sure.

Edited by smiley, 26 September 2013 - 04:42 PM.

[Rosssco]

 

 

  That was speedster4fun (dutch, and exmantaa's mate), and his was a C20LET (iirc).  But myself i am going for the harrop route on a stock B207R, with just some decent cams and a ported head. Let's see what happens.  

 

Def a Saab motor, he was running HP Tuners.

 

 

C20LET bottom, B207 head and LSJ ecu. HP Tuners on top.

 

 

A C20xx bottom end mates to a B207 head?! They are more than a genreation apart as far as engine designs go, no? I'm pretty such Exmantaa mentioned him, and he's running a complete standard B207 block with a Harrop SC unit..

[smiley]

I'll doublecheck on the C20 part.

 

 

edit; ok my mistake.

Bottom is Z20NET, and top either LSJ or saab.

 

Edited by smiley, 26 September 2013 - 05:03 PM.

[Speedy4Fun]

Smiley,

 

Z20NET=LSJ=B207

 

All the same..

[smiley]

All the same..

 

With the open questions on exact internal strengths in each, and how far they have been pushed to find point break.

[ArticMonkey]

Can I order mine tomorrow Oh and how did you do it

A monkey never gives away his secrets. Just be happy I saved you all another £246. Donations to the monkey fund is more than welcome.

[Graeme Lambert]

I've asked for some information from some Saab people to help determine the need for an R or not - hopefully someone on here will be able to advise what it all means?

 

Vocky

 

Have a look at this link http://www.uksaabs.c...189145#p1189145

 

A kind man called Will has posted some details from a workshop manual with details about the L/E/R pistons.

 

Hopefully someone here can help clarify his findings?

 

G

 

 

[smiley]

Interested in seeing what the neo racer guy says.

 

When in the saabs, the engines had this performance:

 

B207E = 150 hp/240nm(177 lbft) 1.8T B207L = 175 hp/265nm(195 lbft) 2.0T B207R = 205 hp/300nm(221 lbft) 2.0T Aero

 

So the R will be streched by 150 horsies, but "only" 100nm.

 

The 300/315 horsies breakpoint can be found a lot online, but never with decent explanation, so could be hearsay.

The stock B207R has the same enginespecs as the stock lsj, and the USA guys easily go towards the 400 on stock lsj engine.

 

Edited by smiley, 26 September 2013 - 09:25 PM.

[Exmantaa]

New group buy price people! £714 all in Don't know how I did it but if you don't ask....

 

Wow, £714 incl. VAT is really cheap.  

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Do we have a code word when ordering mr artic

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

ABSOLOUTLY AMAZING! Cheers mate, cant thank you enough   Does anyone know how much a brand new 2.2 crank and bits you need from the z22se costs? (thinking of donaring my engine into something else)

When I contacted vauxhall last year it was 4500 and you got 1200 back when they had your back

[Graeme Lambert]

More stuff that might help people

 

http://www.gmsportco...s/gmscbuild.pdf

 

And I do have a feeling that the pistons in the E/L will be the same as those in the R - It certainly wasn't unusual for Saab to overspec stuff when building their cars (look at the B204/234 engines which can handle 450bhp+ on stock internals)

 

G

[vocky]

the only way to really tell which pistons are fitted would be to have a look inside the engine, normally they use whatever parts they have on the shelf to build stuff, so I'm sure if they ran out of the better pistons they would use the other versions and vice-versa

[smiley]

It certainly wasn't unusual for Saab to overspec stuff when building their cars (look at the B204/234 engines which can handle 450bhp+ on stock internals)

 

I found quite a few remarks on various saab fora saying that is no longer the case with newer engines.

[techieboy]

 

They moved massively downnmarket with the B207.

[ArticMonkey]

Do we have a code word when ordering mr artic

Hmmm I could have fun with this..... PM's will be going out to all Intrested by lunch.. If you don't get one I either don't like you or thought you were tyre kicking.

[Graeme Lambert]

 

Do we have a code word when ordering mr artic

Hmmm I could have fun with this..... PM's will be going out to all Intrested by lunch.. If you don't get one I either don't like you or thought you were tyre kicking.

 

 

I'm between tyre kicking and serious at the mo Stu. Pm expected.

 

G