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[smiley]

What you see on that pic are ZZP stage 2 cams for the 2.0 LSJ.

 

I'll take that one

[ufods]

What you see on that pic are ZZP stage 2 cams for the 2.0 LSJ.

Still undecided what will be used on the engine(s). We can choose from some original LSJ cams, those ZZP LSJ Stage 2's or some Comp NA's timed for SC (milder exhaust cam than the original Comp blower cams), but it also depends on what SC is used. (M62 or Harrop)

 

I also have a faulty set ZZP St 2 cams that I can exchange or change out for a set ZZP Stage 1 cams, depending how the Stage 2 behave in the 2.0 engine.

Will see. Enough to keep us busy during the winter.

 

Owww, also have a set of new GMR LSJ cams lying around. Apparently very good for power, but these need lifter modification.

 

 

Do you mean we can use zzp stage 1 or 2 without changing the valvesprings?

I am a little bit afraid with the hard / stiff dbilas springs.

[techieboy]

 

Do you mean we can use zzp stage 1 or 2 without changing the valvesprings?

I am a little bit afraid with the hard / stiff dbilas springs.

 

 

You can indeed. That's why I've got the ZZP Stage 1 LSJ cams as I don't want the lumpiness of more extreme cams and power delivery shifted too far up the rev band. Just got to keep the max rpm at a sensible level. My current engine has been fine with blower cams and standard springs at 7500rpm but I'd rather the rev limit was at 7200rpm.

[Exmantaa]

 

 

Do you mean we can use zzp stage 1 or 2 without changing the valvesprings?

I am a little bit afraid with the hard / stiff dbilas springs.

 

 

You can indeed. That's why I've got the ZZP Stage 1 LSJ cams as I don't want the lumpiness of more extreme cams and power delivery shifted too far up the rev band. Just got to keep the max rpm at a sensible level. My current engine has been fine with blower cams and standard springs at 7500rpm but I'd rather the rev limit was at 7200rpm.

 

 

You can, if you don't rev too high. but then what's the point of fitting cams??

(I think JJJ had some issues with valvesprings on sustained higher harrop revs...)

 

We are fitting DBilas springs. Not too hard (comparable to the Supertech 78lb's) and enough clearance for ~11mm valvelift. A Harrop loves revs...

[Bargi]

 

 

 

Do you mean we can use zzp stage 1 or 2 without changing the valvesprings?

I am a little bit afraid with the hard / stiff dbilas springs.

 

 

You can indeed. That's why I've got the ZZP Stage 1 LSJ cams as I don't want the lumpiness of more extreme cams and power delivery shifted too far up the rev band. Just got to keep the max rpm at a sensible level. My current engine has been fine with blower cams and standard springs at 7500rpm but I'd rather the rev limit was at 7200rpm.

 

 

You can, if you don't rev too high. but then what's the point of fitting cams??

(I think JJJ had some issues with valvesprings on sustained higher harrop revs...)

 

We are fitting DBilas springs. Not too hard (comparable to the Supertech 78lb's) and enough clearance for ~11mm valvelift. A Harrop loves revs...

 

 

 

So what's the recommended cams for a Harrop?

ZZP website recommends Stage 3 but doesn't go into as much detail as it does with each stage for the M62.

[ufods]

 

  Do you mean we can use zzp stage 1 or 2 without changing the valvesprings? I am a little bit afraid with the hard / stiff dbilas springs.  

  You can indeed. That's why I've got the ZZP Stage 1 LSJ cams as I don't want the lumpiness of more extreme cams and power delivery shifted too far up the rev band. Just got to keep the max rpm at a sensible level. My current engine has been fine with blower cams and standard springs at 7500rpm but I'd rather the rev limit was at 7200rpm.  

  You can, if you don't rev too high. but then what's the point of fitting cams?? (I think JJJ had some issues with valvesprings on sustained higher harrop revs...)   We are fitting DBilas springs. Not too hard (comparable to the Supertech 78lb's) and enough clearance for ~11mm valvelift. A Harrop loves revs...

Why go for cams? Because the saab ones are for a turbo charged engine. So different to supercharged ones... But do no it better yet.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I have it on good recommendation that the standard z22se cams are better than the standard b207 cams

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 06 November 2013 - 07:42 PM.

[ufods]

I have the info that the z22 cams are nearly exact b207r. But the "r" are different to "l" or "e"

[Exmantaa]

I have the info that the z22 cams are nearly exact b207r. But the "r" are different to "l" or "e"

 

Yep, correct. Only R's have with a tad less lift. Have the specs somewhere. 

[Graeme Lambert]

!!UPDATE!!

 

Good condition, working order starter motor £24.

 

 

All invoices will have the engine code printed and your name tagged to that engine. This will cover you on Techie's point about DVLA requirments.

 

Dragging this up from the dead again, but finally received my invoice after some chasing. Obv I dont have the engine in front of me to check what it matches to, but where on the invoice does it have the engine code printed and tagged to my name?

 

Can't see anything on mine...

 

G

[ArticMonkey]

You need to ask for the engine code to be put on the invoice.

 

 

PS this Group buy will run till the end of December! Please call Neo Brothers up and go from there please.

[Graeme Lambert]

You need to ask for the engine code to be put on the invoice.

 

 

PS this Group buy will run till the end of December! Please call Neo Brothers up and go from there please.

 

I did. Twice.

 

What sort of code should i be looking for?

 

G

[haggi961]

Just had a quick read over this thread and am I right there's the rocker cover off the Saab that will fit with a bit of work?

[vocky]

Just had a quick read over this thread and am I right there's the rocker cover off the Saab that will fit with a bit of work?

Saab cam cover only fits the Saab head, but the Saab head can be modified to fit the z22se cam cover.

 

You cannot fit the Saab cam cover to a z22se without welding the Saab cam cover, even then you would need to ensure it doesn't leak oil afterwards.

[hitman]

Can you place the cylinder head of the z22se engine on the B207 casting?

Then there is no trouble with the coil and cam cover.

 

[fezzasus]

Can you place the cylinder head of the z22se engine on the B207 casting?

Then there is no trouble with the coil and cam cover.

 

 

The cylinder head is the main reason people upgrade to the B207.

[vocky]

Can you place the cylinder head of the z22se engine on the B207 casting?

Then there is no trouble with the coil and cam cover.

 

it is a straight swap, but as above - it would be a downgrade

[Gustaf]

Hi! If this group buy for any reason still is valid, let me know. I read it ended in december '13 so I guess I'm too late. Otherwise, I'm looking for a b207R inlet camshaft. Let me know if you've got one laying around

[fezzasus]

If you are just after an inlet camshaft, Vocky may have some laying around.

 

However I will say that I bought an engine earlier in the year and they still offered the same cost. Phone them and ask.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I have a set of new b207 camshafts from these engines Not sure if it's what you want ??