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[Zoobeef]

Phone them and say your struggling to get the engine to start and can you take the rocker cover off to check the timing.

[AliM]

I've spoken to the supplier this morning, they'd like to speak to the mechanic who fitted the engine :S in order to authorise any warranty repairs.  They assure me that it was running well prior to being shipped out to me.  It's probably just been stood for a while.

 

Compression test ASAP, fingers crossed all ok, then go from there.

[rik]

Hi

Compression test is a good idea

But if that comes back ok, I would suggest checking the relays/fuses in the boot and the fuel cut off switch as those have had me scratching my head a few times in the past

[Zoobeef]

If your still struggling this weekend I may be able to come over and use a fresh set of eyes!

[AliM]

Cheers Mark, i'll let you know

[siztenboots]

different engine , but my coilpack went from working fine at lunchtime, then several hours later with the ignition on (needed for mapping), to completely dead and it wouldn't start in the afternoon.

[vocky]

 

It's not the crank sensor I have a mechanic with me who thinks there's valves stuck somewhere, as there is back pressure in the inlet manifold.

 

 

I've re-read twice and we've jumped immediately to 'kackered engine'.  We're a long way from that conclusion yet.  Persevere!  Engine swaps are never straightforward.

 

due to mechanic stating back pressure in inlet manifold, which would point to inlet valves leaking, z22se bends inlet valves when the chain jumps

 

I've spoken to the supplier this morning, they'd like to speak to the mechanic who fitted the engine :S in order to authorise any warranty repairs.  They assure me that it was running well prior to being shipped out to me.  It's probably just been stood for a while.

 

Compression test ASAP, fingers crossed all ok, then go from there.

fingers crossed that the diagnosis was wrong and the compression test comes up good.

 

Don't forget to check the coilpack capacitor was tight, think it was mentioned it might be loose earlier in this thread

[TheRealVXed]

It should still start unless the timing is mega out.  But if it was that far out there would be nasty noises and bent things... And it would probably stop turning over...

 

How have you tested for spark?  Turning the engine over with a spark plug in the coil pack sparking against the block?  If it is firing then this eliminates crank and cam sensors.....

 

It would still start unless there was pretty much zero compression on all the cylinders.  This sounds almost definitely electrical...

 

Checking for sticky valves you can take the exhaust manifold and the coil pack off (leave spark plugs in), put a strip of paper in front of each exhaust outlet and turn the car over for 10-20 secs. The bits of paper should move if one of them stops moving as much as the others either inlet or exhaust valve on that cylinder is stuck closed.

 

It won't be stuck open otherwise you'd hear it smashing against the piston

[AliM]

 

How have you tested for spark?  Turning the engine over with a spark plug in the coil pack sparking against the block?  If it is firing then this eliminates crank and cam sensors.....

 

by doing exactly that, all fine.

 

things we noticed last night:

it is turning over quicker than normal,

if you hold your hand against the exhaust pipe hole, there is a small amount of suction.

 

will try the valve/paper thing.  Ta

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Wonder if ECU has had to change characteristics for you old engines problems which isn't allowing this engine to work, Just a idea Have you tried without air box on the throttle body and manually choke

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 03 September 2013 - 02:10 PM.

[TheRealVXed]

 

things we noticed last night:

it is turning over quicker than normal,

if you hold your hand against the exhaust pipe hole, there is a small amount of suction.

 

will try the valve/paper thing.  Ta

 

 

There will probably be a bit of suction as the exhaust valves open whilst the piston is on it's way down still...

Quicker than normal suggests lack of compression... buttttt do you have air filter/exhaust etc connected?

 

Does it even try to catch or just turn over?

[AliM]

Standard filter, piper exhaust.

 

This is what it does....

 

 

 

 

Edited by AliM, 03 September 2013 - 03:59 PM.

[TheRealVXed]

I'll have a look when I'm home

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Link not working Ali

[AliM]

hmm should take you to my photobucket account

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Will try on PC

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Works on PC Sounds like no resistance in engine to me ie no compression

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

It even keeps going after starter has stopped trying to start

[TheRealVXed]

Photobucket is flash... videos don't work on i stuff

[Claws]

Works on my iPap but not on my windows phone. It is a Quickplayer video. That sounds really poorly