B207 Saab Conversions
#441
Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:42 AM
#442
Posted 30 July 2014 - 08:50 AM
#443
Posted 05 October 2014 - 03:19 PM
Can't find the original topic on pcv, but prommised to check my system some time ago.
My pcv is open, with a catchtank in between.
It has now done at least 1000 miles of which most spent on track.
The catchtank is empty.
The air inlet has a minimum of oil smear visible.
Engine has no oil consumption.
So mine is staying open.
Edited by smiley, 05 October 2014 - 03:23 PM.
#445
Posted 05 October 2014 - 03:25 PM
Thanks
#446
Posted 27 November 2014 - 12:33 PM
#447
Posted 27 November 2014 - 01:02 PM
You might beable to with the Dutch software.After my proplems with the CS soft ware and external trigger wheel on 2.0 Good luck 😂Just had a thought to the 2.0 brigade would you be able to use the trigger wheel in the B207 and program a aftermarket ecu to interoperate the z22se trigger pattern ??
#448
Posted 27 November 2014 - 01:15 PM
Aftermarket ECU will accept whatever trigger wheel pattern is available
#449
Posted 27 November 2014 - 02:20 PM
Not sure what you mean here? Use a seperate circuit to transform the B207 signal into the Z22SE signal??Just had a thought to the 2.0 brigade would you be able to use the trigger wheel in the B207 and program a aftermarket ecu to interoperate the z22se trigger pattern ??
#450
Posted 27 November 2014 - 03:05 PM
Yes sort of translatorNot sure what you mean here? Use a seperate circuit to transform the B207 signal into the Z22SE signal??Just had a thought to the 2.0 brigade would you be able to use the trigger wheel in the B207 and program a aftermarket ecu to interoperate the z22se trigger pattern ??
#451
Posted 27 November 2014 - 03:39 PM
Chris is confusing me as well... If you're using standard 2.0 with internal trigger wheel and standalone ecu then it all works fineNot sure what you mean here? Use a seperate circuit to transform the B207 signal into the Z22SE signal??Just had a thought to the 2.0 brigade would you be able to use the trigger wheel in the B207 and program a aftermarket ecu to interoperate the z22se trigger pattern ??
#452
Posted 27 November 2014 - 03:59 PM
He wants a "black box" that he can connect between B207 standard engine's trigger sensor and the Z22SE ecu connector....
And off course foolproof, 20yrs lifetime and costs a fiver...
(But yes, we also thought about a circuit that translates 58-2 into a 6-1 patterns with the right trigger timing. Should be doable for a steady state condition, but when you think about misfire detection with the engine's acceleration & decelleration behaviour this becomes pretty complicated... (experts feel free to chime in here.)
Much easier to install a mechanical translator. (aka as external triggerwheel) Or fit a suitable 58-2 management (aka LSJ ecu)
We looked into the Saab Trionic ecu, but Trionic T8 suite for the B207 is not yet so far developed/cracked as the earlier T5 & T7 stuff that is fully open
#453
Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:04 PM
👍He wants a "black box" that he can connect between B207 standard engine's trigger sensor and the Z22SE ecu connector.... And off course foolproof, 20yrs lifetime and costs a fiver... (But yes, we also thought about a circuit that translates 58-2 into a 6-1 patterns with the right trigger timing. Should be doable for a steady state condition, but when you think about misfire detection with the engine's acceleration & decelleration behaviour this becomes pretty complicated... (experts feel free to chime in here.) Much easier to install a mechanical translator. (aka as external triggerwheel) Or fit a suitable 58-2 management (aka LSJ ecu) We looked into the Saab Trionic ecu, but Trionic T8 suite for the B207 is not yet so far developed/cracked as the earlier T5 & T7 stuff that is fully open
#454
Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:23 PM
Engine open, and trigger wheel swap is the cleanest option.
One of the germans posted this yesterday, bought from a tuner.
Somebody just needs to bite the bullet and get one made (with option for multiples in the future).
The costs would then be custom trigger wheel, new studs, gasket and depending on skill; labor.
Edited by smiley, 27 November 2014 - 04:26 PM.
#455
Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:29 PM
(But yes, we also thought about a circuit that translates 58-2 into a 6-1 patterns with the right trigger timing. Should be doable for a steady state condition, but when you think about misfire detection with the engine's acceleration & decelleration behaviour this becomes pretty complicated... (experts feel free to chime in here.)
thats actually quite a task for steady state too... sure a couple of cycles in and you can sort it but I reckon its still a huge job to sort and wouldnt be ideal.
Cant mr Peter offer tweaked software? or has he not got that far into it
#456
Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:34 PM
Somebody just needs to bite the bullet and get one made (with option for multiples in the future).
The costs would then be custom trigger wheel, new studs, gasket and depending on skill; labor.
I've had a couple of quotes. Not cheap, certainly as a one off due to the programming costs. Need to speak to Geary's machine shop man and see what he can do.
Are Hitec selling that internal trigger wheel now? Any costs? The only reason why my B207 is sat in black plastic wrapper is due to me not wanting an external trigger wheel but not being able to make my mind up about what ECU to invest in to keep it all internal.
#457
Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:36 PM
Somebody just needs to bite the bullet and get one made (with option for multiples in the future).
The costs would then be custom trigger wheel, new studs, gasket and depending on skill; labor.
I've had a couple of quotes. Not cheap, certainly as a one off due to the programming costs. Need to speak to Geary's machine shop man and see what he can do.
Are Hitec selling that internal trigger wheel now? Any costs? The only reason why my B207 is sat in black plastic wrapper is due to me not wanting an external trigger wheel but not being able to make my mind up about what ECU to invest in to keep it all internal.
Megasquirt whats wrong with a D-sub 25 way connector for automotive engine control?
#458
Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:40 PM
Funnily enough, that's the only one I haven't looked at. Though I did read there's now a version with CAN and an OBD port of some form but anything that isn't certified waterproof and able to withstand an engine bay gets seriously marked down.
#459
Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:43 PM
CAN has been on the table for a while, but its sh*t CAN being CANOPEN, which is a virus like VBA
#460
Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:49 PM
No DBW support still though, I assume? Is CANOPEN bad then? I'm sure it doesn't compare to an OEM implementation but it's got to be better than not having a multiplexing option and I guess any of the posh aftermarkets all run a cobbled together option anyway. Seems to be mostly Ford based from what I briefly read a few weeks back.
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