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[slindborg]

canopen is a stupid way of implementing it thats all... you have an ID field in the overall message yet with canopen they chuck the ID into the 8byte payload too, twunts.

 

The ford way (well volvo way) is actually really really good

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

WHen does ZzP Black Friday start

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

WHen does ZzP Black Friday start

Hoping for a Harrop

[Exmantaa]

Engine open, and trigger wheel swap is the cleanest option.
One of the germans posted this yesterday, bought from a tuner.

 
Somebody just needs to bite the bullet and get one made (with option for multiples in the future).
 
The costs would then be custom trigger wheel, new studs, gasket and depending on skill; labor.
 

Ehhhh, you forgot that we made Dominique's B207 engine like that?

But involves quite some work with complete disassembly of the engine, all new toque bolts etc...

[fezzasus]

 

WHen does ZzP Black Friday start

Hoping for a Harrop

 

 

They're out of stock. Good luck

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

At least I didn't wake up at 5 am and sit up for 24 hours waiting for it to come up Cheers Tom

[smiley]

 

Ehhhh, you forgot that we made Dominique's B207 engine like that?

 

Yeah but Dom seems to have a lot of cool stuff made one off by a friend of a friend doing him a favor.

And these guys probably need a dozen of them.

 

@The rest: hitec also does internal trigger conversions, so someone could contact them for  quote.

[Exmantaa]

 Ehhhh, you forgot that we made Dominique's B207 engine like that?

  Yeah but Dom seems to have a lot of cool stuff made one off by a friend of a friend doing him a favor. And these guys probably need a dozen of them.   @The rest: hitec also does internal trigger conversions, so someone could contact them for  quote.

the fabrication was a one off (well, actually 2... ), but all made according a design drawing. :-) ps, triggerwheel was the only sourced-out item. ;-)

Edited by Exmantaa, 27 November 2014 - 11:12 PM.

[EnnZett]

Sorry for OT

 

Have been told that the head of the B207R engines now offered/sold have been changed compared to the version sold in the last batches.

 

Any confirmation/comment?

 

BR

EnnZett

 

 

[EnnZett]

Got some minutes ago the information from neobros, that there are no changings.

 

Makes me happy.

 

 

 

 

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Getting some service parts for my b207 2.2 What spark plugs and gapping is advisable for a harroped engine ??

[ultimate]

I am running ngk bkr8iex No need to change the gap. It is small enough (I think 0.7mm)

Edited by ultimate, 26 December 2014 - 03:56 PM.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

1. Chill. 2.2 crank, forged pistons and rods stage 2 LSJ cams,lightened flywheel and balancer delete, home build with vocky input on Dutch ECU software M62 charger ported head. Hoping for 300+  maximum rev 7500 due to M62 charger, now also putting dbilas springs in, 630cc injectors
3.1 pulley


Will be putting a Harrop and 3" exhaust soon

2. Graeme. 2.0 Saab B207 with standard pistons and crank, Comp cams, lightened flywheel, supertech valve springs, balancer delete, ported head, M62 charger, standalone ECU. Yet to decide on exhaust. Hoping for a solid 280bhp.
 
3. Westkenbrit. Vocky fettled B207 (ported etc..), 2.2 crank, forged internals, siemens injectors, stage 2 cams (unless advised otherwise by Vocky) uprated clutch, dutch software, harrop, Pro alloy chargecooler, and baffled fuel tank, uprated fuel pump. 350+
But Neil and Joe would know better as they are doing it all

4. Chris. Leave it sat in my back garden until i can be bothered to pull it to bits.

5. Tony. Ornament. Going to collect all the adaptations and that while I decide what to do.

6. Smiley. 2.0 with head exhaust part ported, zzp or comps cams, lightened flywheel, external crank, water injection, harrop and obdtuner.

7. ufods
B207r with standard internals, TTV lightened flywheel and balancer delete, external trigger, Sachs clutch, 3" full Tullet, Siemens 630 injektors, Dbilas valve springs, ZZP Stage 1 cams, Dutch ECU software
Harrop charger
Aiming 330 PS without water injektion

 
8.Stig_1911
 Vocky fettled B207,fully balaced bottom end, eagle rods,Wiseco pisteons,stage 2 zzp stage 2 turbo comps cams,supertec valvespirngs, balancer delete,arp bolts,TMS lighten flywheel, competiton clutch,2 intercoolers(side and roof) Using the 300 bhp dilbert kit as a base, probably dutch software.... goal 350+

9. Dominique, 2.0 Saab B207R with standard pistons/rods, homemade internal trigger wheel, ZZP stage1 cams, TTV flywheel, DBilas valve springs, standard balancer, ported head, M62 with 3.1 pully, 2,5" Tullett system, ProAlloy cooler and fuel tank, Dutch Engine magagement.
Still to decide LSJ/NFS/B207 crank, injectors and clutch.
 
10. Martin S
2.0 , Trigger wheel, new flywheel, stage 2 cams, new clutch, uorated fule pump dutch software. Its just when can it/should it be done?
 
11. Kieran
B207 Conversion all done by CS  map Klassen / CS, M62 charger 2.9" pulley, TTV Fly wheel ,6 speed gear box with a Mocul oil cooler and scavenger system, External trigger wheel

I've just updated my spec due to maxing out the 470 CC VXR injectors

12. Bargi Saab head and Sump... is that enopugh to be called a conversion?

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I am running ngk bkr8iex No need to change the gap. It is small enough (I think 0.7mm)

Is this a full b207 2.2 or 2.0 can you put your name on list above 😜

[vocky]

Saab heads require flat washer spark plugs, not the z22se items 

 

To be honest they should still be fine on the brand new saab engines from the group buy last year 

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Am I right in picking the saab 9-3 2.0 plugs

[The Batman]

Z20let spark plugs are the same as b207 Just incase they offer better plugs or just for info

[ultimate]

Standard b207 plugs are 1.2 mm gap. This is way to big

[ultimate]

1. Chill. 2.2 crank, forged pistons and rods stage 2 LSJ cams,lightened flywheel and balancer delete, home build with vocky input on Dutch ECU software M62 charger ported head. Hoping for 300+  maximum rev 7500 due to M62 charger, now also putting dbilas springs in, 630cc injectors
3.1 pulley


Will be putting a Harrop and 3" exhaust soon

2. Graeme. 2.0 Saab B207 with standard pistons and crank, Comp cams, lightened flywheel, supertech valve springs, balancer delete, ported head, M62 charger, standalone ECU. Yet to decide on exhaust. Hoping for a solid 280bhp.
 
3. Westkenbrit. Vocky fettled B207 (ported etc..), 2.2 crank, forged internals, siemens injectors, stage 2 cams (unless advised otherwise by Vocky) uprated clutch, dutch software, harrop, Pro alloy chargecooler, and baffled fuel tank, uprated fuel pump. 350+
But Neil and Joe would know better as they are doing it all

4. Chris. Leave it sat in my back garden until i can be bothered to pull it to bits.

5. Tony. Ornament. Going to collect all the adaptations and that while I decide what to do.

6. Smiley. 2.0 with head exhaust part ported, zzp or comps cams, lightened flywheel, external crank, water injection, harrop and obdtuner.

7. ufods
B207r with standard internals, TTV lightened flywheel and balancer delete, external trigger, Sachs clutch, 3" full Tullet, Siemens 630 injektors, Dbilas valve springs, ZZP Stage 1 cams, Dutch ECU software
Harrop charger
Aiming 330 PS without water injektion

 
8.Stig_1911
 Vocky fettled B207,fully balaced bottom end, eagle rods,Wiseco pisteons,stage 2 zzp stage 2 turbo comps cams,supertec valvespirngs, balancer delete,arp bolts,TMS lighten flywheel, competiton clutch,2 intercoolers(side and roof) Using the 300 bhp dilbert kit as a base, probably dutch software.... goal 350+

9. Dominique, 2.0 Saab B207R with standard pistons/rods, homemade internal trigger wheel, ZZP stage1 cams, TTV flywheel, DBilas valve springs, standard balancer, ported head, M62 with 3.1 pully, 2,5" Tullett system, ProAlloy cooler and fuel tank, Dutch Engine magagement.
Still to decide LSJ/NFS/B207 crank, injectors and clutch.
 
10. Martin S
2.0 , Trigger wheel, new flywheel, stage 2 cams, new clutch, uorated fule pump dutch software. Its just when can it/should it be done?
 
11. Kieran
B207 Conversion all done by CS  map Klassen / CS, M62 charger 2.9" pulley, TTV Fly wheel ,6 speed gear box with a Mocul oil cooler and scavenger system, External trigger wheel

I've just updated my spec due to maxing out the 470 CC VXR injectors

12. Bargi Saab head and Sump... is that enopugh to be called a conversion?

13. Ultimate complete saab with oem internals, dbilas springs, balancer delete, fast road cams, harrop+70mm pulley, water injection. Revlimit 7700, runningk this since January 2013, 10k km, but engine uses much oil now.
Never measured HP in the last Evolution but car runs 11.1 on the quarter mile and 7s 100-200km/h GPS

[Bargi]

Standard b207 plugs are 1.2 mm gap. This is way to big

 

As above, but see how you go. If you get stuttering/misfires then gap them down.

Was recommended 7-8mm, went with 7.5 and no more problems