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#501 ArticMonkey

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:52 PM

1. Chill. 2.2 crank, forged pistons and rods stage 2 LSJ cams,lightened flywheel and balancer delete, home build with vocky input on Dutch ECU software Harrop charger ported head. now also putting dbilas springs in, 630cc injectors 3" exhaust & 450lph fuel pump
3.1 pulley

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90% mapped still a little more to do
Just updated

2. Graeme. 2.0 Saab B207 with standard pistons and crank, Comp cams, lightened flywheel, supertech valve springs, balancer delete, ported head, M62 charger, standalone ECU. Yet to decide on exhaust. Hoping for a solid 280bhp.
 
3. Westkenbrit. Vocky fettled B207 (ported etc..), 2.2 crank, forged internals, siemens injectors, stage 2 cams (unless advised otherwise by Vocky) uprated clutch, dutch software, harrop, Pro alloy chargecooler, and baffled fuel tank, uprated fuel pump. 350+
But Neil and Joe would know better as they are doing it all

4. Chris. Leave it sat in my back garden until i can be bothered to pull it to bits.

5. Tony. Ornament. Going to collect all the adaptations and that while I decide what to do.

6. Smiley. 2.0 with head exhaust part ported, zzp or comps cams, lightened flywheel, external crank, water injection, harrop and obdtuner.

7. ufods
B207r with standard internals, TTV lightened flywheel and balancer delete, external trigger, Sachs clutch, 3" full Tullet, Siemens 630 injektors, Dbilas valve springs, ZZP Stage 1 cams, Dutch ECU software
Harrop charger
Aiming 330 PS without water injektion

 
8.Stig_1911
 Vocky fettled B207,fully balaced bottom end, eagle rods,Wiseco pisteons,stage 2 zzp stage 2 turbo comps cams,supertec valvespirngs, balancer delete,arp bolts,TMS lighten flywheel, competiton clutch,2 intercoolers(side and roof) Using the 300 bhp dilbert kit as a base, probably dutch software.... goal 350+

9. Dominique, 2.0 Saab B207R with standard pistons/rods, homemade internal trigger wheel, ZZP stage1 cams, TTV flywheel, DBilas valve springs, standard balancer, ported head, M62 with 3.1 pully, 2,5" Tullett system, ProAlloy cooler and fuel tank, Dutch Engine magagement.
Still to decide LSJ/NFS/B207 crank, injectors and clutch.
 
10. Martin S
2.0 , Trigger wheel, new flywheel, stage 2 cams, new clutch, uorated fule pump dutch software. Its just when can it/should it be done?
 
11. Kieran
B207 Conversion all done by CS  map Klassen / CS, M62 charger 2.9" pulley, TTV Fly wheel ,6 speed gear box with a Mocul oil cooler and scavenger system, External trigger wheel

I've just updated my spec due to maxing out the 470 CC VXR injectors

12. Bargi Saab head and Sump... is that enopugh to be called a conversion?

13. Ultimate complete saab with oem internals, dbilas springs, balancer delete, fast road cams, harrop+70mm pulley, water injection. Revlimit 7700, runningk this since January 2013, 10k km, but engine uses much oil now.
Never measured HP in the last Evolution but car runs 11.1 on the quarter mile and 7s 100-200km/h GPS
 
14.Artic monkey: Saab B207 with OEM internals, diblas springs, balancer delete, LSJ stage 2 cams, harrop+2.95" pulley (harrop group buy). Rev limit 7k.
 
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Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:55 PM

1. Chill. 2.2 crank, forged pistons and rods stage 2 LSJ cams,lightened flywheel and balancer delete, home build with vocky input on Dutch ECU software Harrop charger ported head. now also putting dbilas springs in, 630cc injectors 3" exhaust & 450lph fuel pump
3.1 pulley

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90% mapped still a little more to do
Just updated

2. Graeme. 2.0 Saab B207 with standard pistons and crank, Comp cams, lightened flywheel, supertech valve springs, balancer delete, ported head, M62 charger, standalone ECU. Yet to decide on exhaust. Hoping for a solid 280bhp.
 
3. Westkenbrit. Vocky fettled B207 (ported etc..), 2.2 crank, forged internals, siemens injectors, stage 2 cams (unless advised otherwise by Vocky) uprated clutch, dutch software, harrop, Pro alloy chargecooler, and baffled fuel tank, uprated fuel pump. 350+
But Neil and Joe would know better as they are doing it all

4. Chris. Leave it sat in my back garden until i can be bothered to pull it to bits.

5. Tony. Ornament. Going to collect all the adaptations and that while I decide what to do.

6. Smiley. 2.0 with head exhaust part ported, zzp or comps cams, lightened flywheel, external crank, water injection, harrop and obdtuner.

7. ufods
B207r with standard internals, TTV lightened flywheel and balancer delete, external trigger, Sachs clutch, 3" full Tullet, Siemens 630 injektors, Dbilas valve springs, ZZP Stage 1 cams, Dutch ECU software
Harrop charger
Aiming 330 PS without water injektion

 
8.Stig_1911
 Vocky fettled B207,fully balaced bottom end, eagle rods,Wiseco pisteons,stage 2 zzp stage 2 turbo comps cams,supertec valvespirngs, balancer delete,arp bolts,TMS lighten flywheel, competiton clutch,2 intercoolers(side and roof) Using the 300 bhp dilbert kit as a base, probably dutch software.... goal 350+

9. Dominique, 2.0 Saab B207R with standard pistons/rods, homemade internal trigger wheel, ZZP stage1 cams, TTV flywheel, DBilas valve springs, standard balancer, ported head, M62 with 3.1 pully, 2,5" Tullett system, ProAlloy cooler and fuel tank, Dutch Engine magagement.
Still to decide LSJ/NFS/B207 crank, injectors and clutch.
 
10. Martin S
2.0 , Trigger wheel, new flywheel, stage 2 cams, new clutch, uorated fule pump dutch software. Its just when can it/should it be done?
 
11. Kieran
B207 Conversion all done by CS  map Klassen / CS, M62 charger 2.9" pulley, TTV Fly wheel ,6 speed gear box with a Mocul oil cooler and scavenger system, External trigger wheel

I've just updated my spec due to maxing out the 470 CC VXR injectors

12. Bargi Saab head and Sump... is that enopugh to be called a conversion?

13. Ultimate complete saab with oem internals, dbilas springs, balancer delete, fast road cams, harrop+70mm pulley, water injection. Revlimit 7700, runningk this since January 2013, 10k km, but engine uses much oil now.
Never measured HP in the last Evolution but car runs 11.1 on the quarter mile and 7s 100-200km/h GPS
 
14.Artic monkey: Saab B207 with OEM internals, diblas springs, balancer delete, LSJ stage 2 cams, harrop+2.95" pulley (harrop group buy). Rev limit 7k.
BASE MAP
 
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Posted 20 September 2015 - 07:25 PM

Over to you Mr Bass

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 08:04 PM

My oil pump is with Vocky having the crank sensor and trigger wheel done. So guess I'm committed to 2 litre! Have the stage 2 comp cams and dbilas valve springs and Matt Bentley flywheel. Think I'm going to do electric water pump, balance delete on bottom end. Sticking with the m62 charger. Has anyone done an oil cooler rad in the ear rather than the coolant heat exchanger?

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 07:27 AM

Little update on artic monkeys car after spending the weekend with him 😬 The 2.0 is suffering with high crank pressure So much so it blew the dip stick out and forced the oil out of the dipstick like a water fall The car is very quick approximately 330-340 hp On gear change the crank pressure is coming through the inlet manifold from the head as it should And is showing it self on gear change As a puff of smoke Unfortunately we were unable to to create a vacuume from the inlet pipe pre TB Which is probably why the crank pressure develops in the first place I've got some files I will post soon Just wondered if anyone else is suffering with anything similar

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 07:46 AM

I have nearly the same hardware as Stuart. Only Stage 1 cams and 80mm pulley. I had no Problems with dip stick. My PCV works. Head PCV goes to free air. Try checking the oil level?

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 07:54 AM

I have nearly the same hardware as Stuart. Only Stage 1 cams and 80mm pulley. I had no Problems with dip stick. My PCV works. Head PCV goes to free air. Try checking the oil level?

 

We did suspect high oil levels in the engine early in the day 

 

so we dropped the oil and replaced it and filled the oil to half way up the markers on the dip stick, we still had the issue with the dip stick blowing out 

which dip stick did you use and where do you fill it up to ??



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 07:56 AM

we put in 5 litres after the oil change ( would expect there was still a bit of oil left in the car ) so maybe 5.5 litres in the car after oil change 


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Posted 21 September 2015 - 07:57 AM

have you blocked up the inlet manifold pcv orifice ??



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:01 AM

I use the oem dipstick. PCV is not blocked in the inlet.

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:06 AM

saab dip stick or z22se dip stick ??

 

thats how we ended up running it but we deffo still have pressure 



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:10 AM

Saab dipstick. Do you checked if the head outlet of the PCV is mayby clogged? I have no other idea why you have pressure?

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:17 AM

Saab dipstick. Do you checked if the head outlet of the PCV is mayby clogged? I have no other idea why you have pressure?

What revs do you run and what's your approx power We had to reduce revs which helped with pressure

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:24 AM

I just started to rise ignition. So the car is not finally mapped. I am on 7200 with 80mm pulley and 1,25 bar in 3 gear. Do not know the HP because i do not know the exact weight of my car. I believe 300-310HP

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:27 AM

We only suffered as we started to raise ignition and creating the power Maybe this is the answer

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:32 AM

Is also oil pressed through the dipstick an squirting out? But there should be others having the same problem?

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:35 AM

I think others may of suffered this over the channel This is why I'm making enquiries about other people experiences

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:40 AM

Please post if you find a solution. I will start making power next saison. But 75mm pulley is my absolute smallest pulley. I am afraid of blowing the Engine with a smaller pulley

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:47 AM

I think artic pulley is 78mm 3.05 Inches

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:51 AM

Do you use smoothflowulleys? Or so you have another seller?





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