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[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I run a 3.1 smooth flow Not sure what artic uses

[Kieran McC]

My oil pump is with Vocky having the crank sensor and trigger wheel done. So guess I'm committed to 2 litre! Have the stage 2 comp cams and dbilas valve springs and Matt Bentley flywheel. Think I'm going to do electric water pump, balance delete on bottom end. Sticking with the m62 charger. Has anyone done an oil cooler rad in the ear rather than the coolant heat exchanger?

I have a gear box oil cooler rad in the ear plus 12 pump

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I'm really keen to speak to anyone who has had issues with the B207 2.0 And what power everyone is running

[ufods]

I will report when i am doing steps forward

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

 

Artic Monkeys 

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

1. Chill. 2.2 crank, forged pistons and rods stage 2 LSJ cams,lightened flywheel and balancer delete, home build with vocky input on Dutch ECU software Harrop charger ported head. now also putting dbilas springs in, 630cc injectors 3" exhaust & 450lph fuel pump
3.1 pulley

 

2. Graeme. 2.0 Saab B207 with standard pistons and crank, Comp cams, lightened flywheel, supertech valve springs, balancer delete, ported head, M62 charger, standalone ECU. Yet to decide on exhaust. Hoping for a solid 280bhp.
 
3. Westkenbrit. Vocky fettled B207 (ported etc..), 2.2 crank, forged internals, siemens injectors, stage 2 cams (unless advised otherwise by Vocky) uprated clutch, dutch software, harrop, Pro alloy chargecooler, and baffled fuel tank, uprated fuel pump. 350+
But Neil and Joe would know better as they are doing it all

4. Chris. Leave it sat in my back garden until i can be bothered to pull it to bits.

5. Tony. Ornament. Going to collect all the adaptations and that while I decide what to do.

6. Smiley. 2.0 with head exhaust part ported, zzp or comps cams, lightened flywheel, external crank, water injection, harrop and obdtuner.

7. ufods
B207r with standard internals, TTV lightened flywheel and balancer delete, external trigger, Sachs clutch, 3" full Tullet, Siemens 630 injektors, Dbilas valve springs, ZZP Stage 1 cams, Dutch ECU software
Harrop charger
Aiming 330 PS without water injektion

 
8.Stig_1911
 Vocky fettled B207,fully balaced bottom end, eagle rods,Wiseco pisteons,stage 2 zzp stage 2 turbo comps cams,supertec valvespirngs, balancer delete,arp bolts,TMS lighten flywheel, competiton clutch,2 intercoolers(side and roof) Using the 300 bhp dilbert kit as a base, probably dutch software.... goal 350+

9. Dominique, 2.0 Saab B207R with standard pistons/rods, homemade internal trigger wheel, ZZP stage1 cams, TTV flywheel, DBilas valve springs, standard balancer, ported head, M62 with 3.1 pully, 2,5" Tullett system, ProAlloy cooler and fuel tank, Dutch Engine magagement.
Still to decide LSJ/NFS/B207 crank, injectors and clutch.
 
10. Martin S
2.0 , Trigger wheel, new flywheel, stage 2 cams, new clutch, uorated fule pump dutch software. Its just when can it/should it be done?
 
11. Kieran
B207 Conversion all done by CS  map Klassen / CS, M62 charger 2.9" pulley, TTV Fly wheel ,6 speed gear box with a Mocul oil cooler and scavenger system, External trigger wheel

I've just updated my spec due to maxing out the 470 CC VXR injectors

12. Bargi Saab head and Sump... is that enopugh to be called a conversion?

13. Ultimate complete saab with oem internals, dbilas springs, balancer delete, fast road cams, harrop+70mm pulley, water injection. Revlimit 7700, runningk this since January 2013, 10k km, but engine uses much oil now.
Never measured HP in the last Evolution but car runs 11.1 on the quarter mile and 7s 100-200km/h GPS
 
14.Artic monkey: Saab B207 with OEM internals, diblas springs, balancer delete, LSJ stage 2 cams, harrop+ 3.05" pulley (harrop group buy). Rev limit 7k.

 

 

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 21 September 2015 - 01:19 PM.

[Kieran McC]

1. Chill. 2.2 crank, forged pistons and rods stage 2 LSJ cams,lightened flywheel and balancer delete, home build with vocky input on Dutch ECU software Harrop charger ported head. now also putting dbilas springs in, 630cc injectors 3" exhaust & 450lph fuel pump
3.1 pulley

 

2. Graeme. 2.0 Saab B207 with standard pistons and crank, Comp cams, lightened flywheel, supertech valve springs, balancer delete, ported head, M62 charger, standalone ECU. Yet to decide on exhaust. Hoping for a solid 280bhp.
 
3. Westkenbrit. Vocky fettled B207 (ported etc..), 2.2 crank, forged internals, siemens injectors, stage 2 cams (unless advised otherwise by Vocky) uprated clutch, dutch software, harrop, Pro alloy chargecooler, and baffled fuel tank, uprated fuel pump. 350+
But Neil and Joe would know better as they are doing it all

4. Chris. Leave it sat in my back garden until i can be bothered to pull it to bits.

5. Tony. Ornament. Going to collect all the adaptations and that while I decide what to do.

6. Smiley. 2.0 with head exhaust part ported, zzp or comps cams, lightened flywheel, external crank, water injection, harrop and obdtuner.

7. ufods
B207r with standard internals, TTV lightened flywheel and balancer delete, external trigger, Sachs clutch, 3" full Tullet, Siemens 630 injektors, Dbilas valve springs, ZZP Stage 1 cams, Dutch ECU software
Harrop charger
Aiming 330 PS without water injektion

 
8.Stig_1911
 Vocky fettled B207,fully balaced bottom end, eagle rods,Wiseco pisteons,stage 2 zzp stage 2 turbo comps cams,supertec valvespirngs, balancer delete,arp bolts,TMS lighten flywheel, competiton clutch,2 intercoolers(side and roof) Using the 300 bhp dilbert kit as a base, probably dutch software.... goal 350+

9. Dominique, 2.0 Saab B207R with standard pistons/rods, homemade internal trigger wheel, ZZP stage1 cams, TTV flywheel, DBilas valve springs, standard balancer, ported head, M62 with 3.1 pully, 2,5" Tullett system, ProAlloy cooler and fuel tank, Dutch Engine magagement.
Still to decide LSJ/NFS/B207 crank, injectors and clutch.
 
10. Martin S
2.0 , Trigger wheel, new flywheel, stage 2 cams, new clutch, uorated fule pump dutch software. Its just when can it/should it be done?
 
11. Kieran
B207 2.0 L Conversion all done by CS  map Klassen / CS, M62 charger 2.9" pulley, TTV Fly wheel ,6 speed gear box with a Mocul oil cooler and scavenger system, External trigger wheel

I've just updated my spec due to maxing out the 470 CC VXR injectors

12. Bargi Saab head and Sump... is that enopugh to be called a conversion?

13. Ultimate complete saab with oem internals, dbilas springs, balancer delete, fast road cams, harrop+70mm pulley, water injection. Revlimit 7700, runningk this since January 2013, 10k km, but engine uses much oil now.
Never measured HP in the last Evolution but car runs 11.1 on the quarter mile and 7s 100-200km/h GPS
 
14.Artic monkey: Saab B207 with OEM internals, diblas springs, balancer delete, LSJ stage 2 cams, harrop+ 3.05" pulley (harrop group buy). Rev limit 7k.

 

 

 

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

You messed up the list Kieren Lol Leave it I will do it 😂

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

1. Chill. 2.2 crank, forged pistons and rods stage 2 LSJ cams,lightened flywheel and balancer delete, home build with vocky input on Dutch ECU software Harrop charger ported head. now also putting dbilas springs in, 630cc injectors 3" exhaust & 450lph fuel pump
3.1 pulley
 


2. Graeme. 2.0 Saab B207 with standard pistons and crank, Comp cams, lightened flywheel, supertech valve springs, balancer delete, ported head, M62 charger, standalone ECU. Yet to decide on exhaust. Hoping for a solid 280bhp.
 
3. Westkenbrit. Vocky fettled B207 (ported etc..), 2.2 crank, forged internals, siemens injectors, stage 2 cams (unless advised otherwise by Vocky) uprated clutch, dutch software, harrop, Pro alloy chargecooler, and baffled fuel tank, uprated fuel pump. 350+
But Neil and Joe would know better as they are doing it all

4. Chris. Leave it sat in my back garden until i can be bothered to pull it to bits.

5. Tony. Ornament. Going to collect all the adaptations and that while I decide what to do.

6. Smiley. 2.0 with head exhaust part ported, zzp or comps cams, lightened flywheel, external crank, water injection, harrop and obdtuner.

7. ufods
B207r with standard internals, TTV lightened flywheel and balancer delete, external trigger, Sachs clutch, 3" full Tullet, Siemens 630 injektors, Dbilas valve springs, ZZP Stage 1 cams, Dutch ECU software
Harrop charger
Aiming 330 PS without water injektion

 
8.Stig_1911
 Vocky fettled B207,fully balaced bottom end, eagle rods,Wiseco pisteons,stage 2 zzp stage 2 turbo comps cams,supertec valvespirngs, balancer delete,arp bolts,TMS lighten flywheel, competiton clutch,2 intercoolers(side and roof) Using the 300 bhp dilbert kit as a base, probably dutch software.... goal 350+

9. Dominique, 2.0 Saab B207R with standard pistons/rods, homemade internal trigger wheel, ZZP stage1 cams, TTV flywheel, DBilas valve springs, standard balancer, ported head, M62 with 3.1 pully, 2,5" Tullett system, ProAlloy cooler and fuel tank, Dutch Engine magagement.
Still to decide LSJ/NFS/B207 crank, injectors and clutch.
 
10. Martin S
2.0 , Trigger wheel, new flywheel, stage 2 cams, new clutch, uorated fule pump dutch software. Its just when can it/should it be done?
 
11. Kieran
B207 2.0 L Conversion all done by CS  map Klassen / CS, M62 charger 2.9" pulley, TTV Fly wheel ,6 speed gear box with a Mocul oil cooler and scavenger system, External trigger wheel

I've just updated my spec due to maxing out the 470 CC VXR injectors

12. Bargi Saab head and Sump... is that enopugh to be called a conversion?

13. Ultimate complete saab with oem internals, dbilas springs, balancer delete, fast road cams, harrop+70mm pulley, water injection. Revlimit 7700, runningk this since January 2013, 10k km, but engine uses much oil now.
Never measured HP in the last Evolution but car runs 11.1 on the quarter mile and 7s 100-200km/h GPS
 
14.Artic monkey: Saab B207 with OEM internals, diblas springs, balancer delete, LSJ stage 2 cams, harrop+ 3.05" pulley (harrop group buy). Rev limit 7k.
 

 

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

we are going to lose some boost from artic monkeys car as we are getting close to the limits

and its not allowing us to do what we need to do with the ignition settings 

 

 

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 21 September 2015 - 06:33 PM.

[ultimate]

I'm really keen to speak to anyone who has had issues with the B207 2.0 And what power everyone is running

Mine uses much oil. About 1l/1000km when in cruising mode. More when pushing it. Will get it out and see what is destroyed in winter Never had problems with dipstick blowing out or something. HP: long story... At the moment 348 which the oem n/a backbox and only revved to 6800 on rolling road. No difference between tullet 3" backbox and oem n/a up to 6500rpm

Edited by ultimate, 22 September 2015 - 03:07 AM.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

We are getting a lot of crank pressure on artic monkeys Car and want to cover all the bases rather than cause bigger issues so we will be capping the power around 330 hp the torque around 350 NM We are hoping to be able to get more ignition in with a bigger pulley, we are not where we want to be with the ignition setting and we can't do this with keeping in the power and torque targets above Also how do you 2.0l guys get on with heat with the harrops on the 2.0

[fezzasus]

What's limiting timing advance, knock? 

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

What's limiting timing advance, knock? 

No it's the power and torque we are producing before getting to the sweet spot So the theory is, by going bigger pulley we can get the desired ignition settings ( more ignition ) To keep the car smoother when the temps go up and the ecu starts retarding We are also hoping the bigger pulleys will also help control the temps So it's a win win by going for a bigger pulley

[fezzasus]

Interesting. If you're not knock limited at that power level, there really isn't a reason to switch to low compression pistons.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Interesting. If you're not knock limited at that power level, there really isn't a reason to switch to low compression pistons.

Heat is our biggest issue along with crank pressure at the moment

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

And low compression Pistons help with the heat issues

[smiley]

 

To keep the car smoother when the temps go up and the ecu starts retarding

 

 

Peter can put in a higher number then 57 to start retarding. (via a map update.)

No need to wait for obdtuner pro for that.

   

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

 To keep the car smoother when the temps go up and the ecu starts retarding  

  Peter can put in a higher number then 57 to start retarding. (via a map update.) No need to wait for obdtuner pro for that.    

Unless there is something going on in the background I don't think it's adding fuel until we reach 71degrees on the inlet temps & 98 on the water temps

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 22 September 2015 - 08:12 AM.

[fezzasus]

And low compression Pistons help with the heat issues

 

Don't see how that makes any difference at all. If anything an aftermarket piston will tolerate more heat due to higher quality materials