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#381 mbes2

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 08:50 AM

Are you booked in for Round 6 at Brands on the 8th ?

 

 



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 09:33 AM

Couldnt tell you what mine was tbh. You have the data of mikes from croft what was he getting?

 

I will have to have a look but from memory he was over -1G consistently but obviously the braking was looked at properly on that build.

 

 

 

ah right, so even heavier than mine then, will  be good fun to see how close I can get to that time with practice

 

Im running PF pads at the moment as a few of the elise racers rated them highly on stock 2 pots, i will try cl6 in the future, but will need to use all these PF ones first.

 

 

Please don't be disappointed when comparing your laps to Randy, he is a seasoned, championship winning race driver with lots of experience and talent. By comparison even the fastest drivers will not compare (I believe he has even bested Scuffers on a few occasions :lol: )

 

I think you will be surprised how much talent comes into things and I wouldn't be shocked if you were 5s+ slower a lap even with your weight advantage.

 

PF01's are a great pad and do work better a high temps but consistency is key, so don't ditch the cooling for negligable aero gains.



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 11:30 AM

 

Couldnt tell you what mine was tbh. You have the data of mikes from croft what was he getting?

 

I will have to have a look but from memory he was over -1G consistently but obviously the braking was looked at properly on that build.

 

 

 

ah right, so even heavier than mine then, will  be good fun to see how close I can get to that time with practice

 

Im running PF pads at the moment as a few of the elise racers rated them highly on stock 2 pots, i will try cl6 in the future, but will need to use all these PF ones first.

 

 

Please don't be disappointed when comparing your laps to Randy, he is a seasoned, championship winning race driver with lots of experience and talent. By comparison even the fastest drivers will not compare (I believe he has even bested Scuffers on a few occasions :lol: )

 

I think you will be surprised how much talent comes into things and I wouldn't be shocked if you were 5s+ slower a lap even with your weight advantage.

 

PF01's are a great pad and do work better a high temps but consistency is key, so don't ditch the cooling for negligable aero gains.

 

 

Cooling the brakes really isn't required unless doing very,very long sessions or endurance events, especially on a lightweight Time Attack car. (Obviously dependant on brake setup) I have never used any direct brake cooling on my car and have had zero issues over the 7-8 years that I've been tracking/competing with it. Even last year with around 700bhp we had no problems with the brakes and were getting up to near 170mph.  



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 11:37 AM

Are you booked in for Round 6 at Brands on the 8th ?

 

 

Sent the form off earlier in the week, spoke to the organiser and im booked in, time is going to be very tight getting the car ready as theres still alot to do before then, the plan is to drive down friday morning then spend the afternoon setting everything up.

 

 

Couldnt tell you what mine was tbh. You have the data of mikes from croft what was he getting?

 

I will have to have a look but from memory he was over -1G consistently but obviously the braking was looked at properly on that build.

 

 

 

ah right, so even heavier than mine then, will  be good fun to see how close I can get to that time with practice

 

Im running PF pads at the moment as a few of the elise racers rated them highly on stock 2 pots, i will try cl6 in the future, but will need to use all these PF ones first.

 

 

Please don't be disappointed when comparing your laps to Randy, he is a seasoned, championship winning race driver with lots of experience and talent. By comparison even the fastest drivers will not compare (I believe he has even bested Scuffers on a few occasions :lol: )

 

I think you will be surprised how much talent comes into things and I wouldn't be shocked if you were 5s+ slower a lap even with your weight advantage.

 

PF01's are a great pad and do work better a high temps but consistency is key, so don't ditch the cooling for negligable aero gains.

 

Well I can only try my best and see what I come up with, its nice to have a reference point in terms of apex speeds and lines through the corners to learn from.

 

I currently dont have any brake cooling at the moment, so im loosing anything I previously had, when i get some testing over winter i will have a look at brake temps to see where I stand

 

Dont mention scuffers, he hasnt abused me for a couple of months now, you will awake the monster haha



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 11:40 AM

I suppose it all depends on friction materials. Did you not see any neg g retardation at all Jamie?



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 12:43 PM

Good luck Lee, I hope you have a smashing day.

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:07 PM

Good luck Lee, I hope you have a smashing day.

 

Cheers Nev, though I really wish you had used any other word but 'smashing' when it comes to a motorsport event!



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 04:04 PM

Good luck Lee, I hope you have a smashing day.

  Cheers Nev, though I really wish you had used any other word but 'smashing' when it comes to a motorsport event!

Ooops, how silly of me! Don't forget to enjoy it :)

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 07:29 PM

you can see how much has been removed when you compare these 2 pictures

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started on the door to again give the air a nice clean flow out, the only thing in the way of the air now is the door hinges

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 07:05 PM

After seeing the veyron ss on tv again noticed it has the same behind front wheels. If they put it on a £1.5 million car it has got to be a good aero mod?...

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 07:16 PM

Sounds like you'll need a dukes of hazard approachto getting in and out if you need to lose the door hinges!

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 07:42 PM

After seeing the veyron ss on tv again noticed it has the same behind front wheels. If they put it on a £1.5 million car it has got to be a good aero mod?...

   Its pretty common on alot of race cars, they all have there own ways of doing it. Even the motorsport elise had it. The proper way of doing it will have quite a large gap behind the wheel either being completely open like mine or have a large duct exiting further back.

Sounds like you'll need a dukes of hazard approachto getting in and out if you need to lose the door hinges!

I wasnt thinking of getting rid of them as in the future I will want to put my oem doors back on when I pull the aero back off and it just becomes a weekend fun car. If I ever did go that far to remove the hinges I would mould a window surround Into the door and then have the door hinged from the roof. Amg sls style. But I would be suprised if I ever take the aero that far, at the moment this is quite mild aero package compared to final design I have in my head

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:15 PM

Not on entry list..?

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Posted 04 November 2014 - 12:40 AM

got missed off the list, but definitely entered, should have my stickers and packs arriving in the post tomorrow



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Posted 05 November 2014 - 12:13 AM

finished off my front wing ventilation, should really have any lift or much above atmospheric pressure in the wheel arches anymore

 

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Posted 05 November 2014 - 09:21 AM

Looking forward to seeing it with the sill extension pieces and front clam on.  This is a mod thats been in my head for a while but cutting the sills takes balls!



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Posted 05 November 2014 - 09:55 AM

the only way to know for sure would be to check with manometer tubes , we use a multi tube setup to show delta pressure over aerofoils in our windtunnel.

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Posted 05 November 2014 - 09:33 PM

Looking forward to seeing it with the sill extension pieces and front clam on.  This is a mod thats been in my head for a while but cutting the sills takes balls!

 

Will take a picture tomorrow as ive got all the bodywork back on it now

 

the only way to know for sure would be to check with manometer tubes , we use a multi tube setup to show delta pressure over aerofoils in our windtunnel.

 

how much begging is required to but my car in your wind tunnel?



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Posted 06 November 2014 - 05:33 PM

starting to look like a real car now

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Posted 06 November 2014 - 05:42 PM

That back end thou.......

it's proper form over function

I love it because it such a child like look to it

like the cars I drew as a kid 

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