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[Ormes]

Fcuk me this thread is bringing out the worst in everyone... mods...

[T VXT]

I haven't got anything against this guy and he can do whatever he wants as long as it doesn't effect others. It's a horrible situation losing at lot of time/effort/money and wouldn't wish it on anyone. But why would you be spending money on a trackday when your tow car (hopefully not your daily drive) has no Mot (expired 30 June 15), no tax (expired 19 oct 2014), no insurance (from Dvla and askMID). You need to have the basics covered before jumping ahead of yourself........... If you do it again be legal, be safe.

[cookster501]

How do know his tax and mot runout?

[fiveoclock]

How do know his tax and mot runout?

 

 

 has no Mot (expired 30 June 15), no tax (expired 19 oct 2014), no insurance (from Dvla and askMID).

 

[T VXT]

Anyone can check a number plate for current mot, tax (https://www.gov.uk/g...ation-from-dvla) and insurance status (askMID.com). I didn't do the original checks it was raised on another forum.

[Nev]

Anyone can check a number plate for current mot, tax (https://www.gov.uk/g...ation-from-dvla) and insurance status (askMID.com). I didn't do the original checks it was raised on another forum.

 

You can't rely on those websites. About a year ago, I got contacted by the DVLC/A saying me/Nipper were under suspicion (I can't remember the exact wording or who fron exactly). This was even though I was thoroughly insured which confused and worried me. So I rang up my agent (Henderson Taylor) and asked why and he chased it up - apparently the insurers computer had somehow failed to send the details that I was actually insured to the necessary government agencies.

 

As with everything on the internet, read it, but don't assume it's correct.

 

 

Edited by Nev, 04 October 2015 - 05:35 PM.

[T VXT]

Nev, Not sure I agree with that. Admin errors by your insurance company not sending your record to the police database, dvla admin error to not recognise car tax payment and your mot station not submitting the electronic mot. All can happen, but all in the same year.... Edit- I hope I'm wrong

Edited by T VXT, 04 October 2015 - 05:30 PM.

[fiveoclock]

Anyone can check a number plate for current mot, tax (https://www.gov.uk/g...ation-from-dvla) and insurance status (askMID.com). I didn't do the original checks it was raised on another forum.

  You can't rely on those websites. About a year ago, I got contacted by the DVLC/A saying me/Nipper were under suspicion (I can't remember the exact wording). This was even though I was thoroughly insured which confused and worried me. So I rang up my agent (Henderson Taylor) and asked why and he chased it up - apparently the insurers computer had somehow failed to send the details that I was actually insured to the government.    As with everything on the internet, read it, but don't assume it's correct.    

Funny how the different computers and data bases were all wrong about mot, insurance and tax on two different vehicles. I bet that happens all the time! Those damn computers.

[cookster501]

Who ran the checks on his car?

[fiveoclock]

Who ran the checks on his car?

numerous unknown people on other forums

[myles]

Who ran the checks on his car?

Public minded citizens?

[Firthy]

http://www.barryboys...288341#p1288341

 

Wow makes for very scary reading, I'm not sure what's worse the trailer or the car!!!!

 

We should have more [font="arial, 'sans-serif-light', sans-serif;"]scrutiny like they do in the U.S before allowing cars on track days.[/font]

 

That thing was so obviously an absolute death trap anyone could spot that.... there was a DIY mini last time I was at Sntterton that looked like it had a green house mounted on the back of it. I was directly behind it for the sighter lap thinking that won't last one session, first session red flag oil everywhere!!!

Edited by Firthy, 05 October 2015 - 10:11 AM.

[Rosssco]

I admire the OP's original intentions around the build, trying new things etc. but the old term "you've got to pay, to play" and if you want to play track day god, you've either got to be very experienced, or be able to fund properly tested and developed products already out there.

 

With the explosion (no pun!) in track day exploits, I think some can become a little immune to the risks associated in these events and why safety must come top of the list over dubious go faster mods. So I understand the frustration of those who have the experience (good or bad) that have been involved in these things for a good amount of time...

[Gedi]

http://www.barryboys...288341#p1288341

 

Wow, that forum is brutal

[Rosssco]

http://forums.overcl....php?p=20025601

 

Post #572 is interesting

 

I wish that had been posted near the start of this thread..

[Sutol]

I'm no expert but when I saw this car at Snet last year when he was treating the track day as a test day, and saw the wing thing on the back wobbling around I wondered if it would drop off into a car following. On a track day I think when a car has had all these mods done to it the marshalls should make a decision whether it should be allowed out. If it needs testing then he should hire out a track where it can be done properly.

[Mike (Cliffie)]

I have never ran at Donington so no comparison.

 

My lap times from Time Attack from Snetterton 300 were in the wet were they not? Are we comparing the 200 circuit.

 

My time round Brands Indy was 51.03 IIRC and certainly sub 1 minute in the wet.

 

Anybody can beat my Oulton Park time as the only time I went there the car was running 250 BHP and I was sh*t to be honest and was the only round in 2013 I failed to get a 1st or 2nd.

 

I am saddened to see this outcome as Lee had high hopes and was trying new things with this car. He admitted right from the start that it was his project and he was going to do it his way and I guess I 50% applaud him and 50% wish he had listened to those with more experience.

 

As Scuffers reminded us; fire can happen even in a well prepared car and luckily for him at Snetterton, the in car extinguisher did its job and he got out albeit without his eyebrows and the damage was limited. Still bad but limited.

 

 

[SteveA]

Anybody can beat my Oulton Park time as the only time I went there the car was running 250 BHP and I was sh*t to be honest and was the only round in 2013 I failed to get a 1st or 2nd.

 

From what I understand (and please correct me if I'm wrong) Turbotoaster is comparing your Oulton International lap to a one extrapolated from a predicted lap (timed via video and a freind with a stop watch) he did on the Island layout.

Edited by SteveA, 05 October 2015 - 01:58 PM.

[fezzasus]

More specifically, he thinks there's a 19 second difference, which somehow doesn't scale with the speed you're doing.

[Scuffers]

More specifically, he thinks there's a 19 second difference, which somehow doesn't scale with the speed you're doing.

All this talk of stellar laptimes etc is just laughable... this is his post of Selcock:  

I was on my fourth session around 12pm, i think it was my 35th lap(doing 10 laps per session) To be honest it was going awesome, doing the international circuit is interesting! the car is really starting to get quick and I was taking more speed through the corners and my confidence built up. compared to when i was there in July my GPS data was reading between 10-12mph faster down the straights, on the lap before the fire i did a 1:52.1 and the lap i was on was 0.5 sec faster. Flat through island bend at 120mph, flat through turn 6, flat through clayhill at 120mph, taking a gear higher than i had previously done around alot of the corners. I was still a little bit early on the brakes to be honest, but thats just learning to have confidence in them as everytime I hit the brakes I realised I could have braked alot later. You never know how good the brakes are until you compare yourself to other cars in track, a couple of rx7s there had big brakes all around and how early they braked and how long it took them to slow down really gave me a lesson in how weight plays a big difference. I think the car with a good driver would be down to a 1:48, maybe quicker. I was running about 17psi and my highest inlet temp of the logs was 35c on an 17c day which I didnt think was to bad. Was a real shame as in that session I had a smile from ear to ear and all that hard work I put in was finally starting to show. Ive been told there is around 19seconds between island and international circuit so was about 1.32, which is 6 seconds faster than last time I was there. So to compare to my competitors I would hold the lap record for CLUB RWD class and actually be the fastest club car overall, assuming i would have been going at the same pace and day as them. So a few positives.....alot of negatives.

So, let me get this right, his actual lap time he states as 1:52.1 (and where did this time actually come from??) To put this in perspective, back in 2001 (yes, some 14 years ago!) I raced my Lotus there in what was JCC Tom Rowe Centurian Challenge (100Km races), the regs were pretty loose, basically had to be a road legal car (with MOT etc) and run on road legal Legal MSA listed tyres. My best time (in the 100Km race) was a 1:54.137 (87.52Mph) (and yes there has been a change to the cct at Knickerbrook in 2002, pulling the chicane further back, net effect was marginal though as the exit was much easier/faster, and it's been re-surfaced too) So, 14 years ago, a std (sport 190) with some (not so old) git in it, on Yoko A032R (long gone these days) is only 2 sec's slower than this aero-monster with ~100+ HP more, with bigger modern rubber, better tarmac, etc etc.

 

Humm... somebody really needs to set their sights higher...

 

(for reff, my best is from TA 2013 with a 1:40.845)