Jump to content


Photo

Project 'once'

Started by Graeme Lambert , Jan 24 2014 03:28 PM
saab b207 supercharged m62 ats dtc composite worx re-spray coupe

  • Please log in to reply
1145 replies to this topic

#501 Graeme Lambert

Graeme Lambert

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,543 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire

Posted 08 July 2014 - 09:57 PM

Can't you fit rear subframe and get on with getting it back on its wheels ? Fuel pipes to fit swirl pot to fit ? Try Ironing the gold sheet might get a flatter finish ;-)

I did originally suggest this to MB but he seems to think this is the easiest/best way? And no ironing...

#502 Graeme Lambert

Graeme Lambert

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,543 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire

Posted 08 July 2014 - 09:57 PM

No removable panel in the bulkhead for ease of supercharger removal/refitting? :o

Project Once Matt. Once... :lol:

#503 Gedi

Gedi

    404 Not Found

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,547 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North West
  • Interests:Nothing

Posted 08 July 2014 - 09:58 PM

No removable panel in the bulkhead for ease of supercharger removal/refitting? :o

 

Ahh, the inspection panel. I like the one that Simon put into his for access to the turbo. I hope to recreate that at some point.


#504 The Batman

The Batman

    Super Moderator

  • 30,267 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:FLD mum's bed

Posted 08 July 2014 - 09:59 PM

I'm intrigued what is it you are talking about easiest/best way to fit with subframe off?

#505 techieboy

techieboy

    Supercharger of Doom

  • 22,914 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Bedford

Posted 08 July 2014 - 09:59 PM

You wont be saying that the first time you want to remove the inlet manifold to check the Laminova's,  :wacko:


#506 Graeme Lambert

Graeme Lambert

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,543 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire

Posted 09 July 2014 - 05:43 AM

I'm intrigued what is it you are talking about easiest/best way to fit with subframe off?

The engine...

#507 Graeme Lambert

Graeme Lambert

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,543 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire

Posted 09 July 2014 - 05:44 AM

You wont be saying that the first time you want to remove the inlet manifold to check the Laminova's,  :wacko:

New bulkhead = loads of room? I hope... :o

#508 leevx2.2

leevx2.2

    Turbo's are for girls and throttle bodies are too slow

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,830 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Bedford
  • Interests:Taking apart vx220s for fun
    getting p!!sed
    genraly playing with large power tools

Posted 09 July 2014 - 06:08 AM

You wont be saying that the first time you want to remove the inlet manifold to check the Laminova's,  :wacko:

New bulkhead = loads of room? I hope... :o
Yes loades you don't need a panel with the standered bulkhead removed :-)

#509 Graeme Lambert

Graeme Lambert

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,543 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire

Posted 09 July 2014 - 09:54 AM

 

 

You wont be saying that the first time you want to remove the inlet manifold to check the Laminova's,   :wacko:

New bulkhead = loads of room? I hope... :o
Yes loades you don't need a panel with the standered bulkhead removed :-)

 

 

thumbsup  


#510 fezzasus

fezzasus

    Whipping Boy

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,689 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Oxford

Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:24 AM

I'll bow to Matt's superior knowledge but if I were doing it I would certainly want the subframe on before the engine, the chassis was unstable enough just fitting the heater. I wouldn't want to offer a engine up to the chassis as it is.


#511 The Batman

The Batman

    Super Moderator

  • 30,267 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:FLD mum's bed

Posted 09 July 2014 - 01:22 PM

I'm intrigued what is it you are talking about easiest/best way to fit with subframe off?

The engine...
I guess it saves hoisting it up in there air :lol: But slows you down for the suspension / subframe rebuild or have you taken the joe approach and just can't be arsed now? :lol If it was me I would bolt subframe on, like what fez says

Edited by The Batman, 09 July 2014 - 01:24 PM.

#512 vocky

vocky

    Moderator

  • 11,969 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

Posted 09 July 2014 - 03:50 PM

might be fine to fit a Lotus engine with the subframe removed but the vx220 needs the side mounts removed to bolt up the subframe, so a stupid idea  :ffs:


#513 Graeme Lambert

Graeme Lambert

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,543 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire

Posted 09 July 2014 - 09:49 PM

might be fine to fit a Lotus engine with the subframe removed but the vx220 needs the side mounts removed to bolt up the subframe, so a stupid idea  :ffs:

Hmmmm, guess I know what I'm doing when I get back from Scotland after the weekend then. At least subframe is ready, new shims and bolts ready for mounting point and all the suspension wishbones and hubs are built up waiting...

#514 vocky

vocky

    Moderator

  • 11,969 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:54 AM

I tried it once, never again  :beat:

 


#515 Gedi

Gedi

    404 Not Found

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,547 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North West
  • Interests:Nothing

Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:59 AM

I don't understand what the benefit of fitting without the subframe would be, other than not having to lift the crane quite as high??


#516 Nev

Nev

    Nipper's Minion

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,587 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Bristol
  • Interests:Rock climbing, skiing, kayaking, surfing, mountaineering, budgies, chess, practical mechanics.

Posted 11 July 2014 - 05:57 AM

I don't understand what the benefit of fitting without the subframe would be, other than not having to lift the crane quite as high??

Me too.

Edited by Nev, 11 July 2014 - 05:58 AM.

#517 Graeme Lambert

Graeme Lambert

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,543 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire

Posted 11 July 2014 - 09:00 AM

So it's to allow better/easier access for me to work out where to run fuel lines etc, rather than reaching and bending over the subframe I can just lean over the engine itself.

 

G


#518 fezzasus

fezzasus

    Whipping Boy

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,689 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Oxford

Posted 11 July 2014 - 09:22 AM

Speaking to Vocky about this, as I will be removing my subframe to reshim it when I replace my engine, he went into a bit more detail:

 

You can only attach the front engine mount to the engine, the side mounts cannot be attached as the subframe bolts need to be added before.

 

Because of this, you need to find a way to offer up the subframe with the engine crane still supporting the engine.

 

In short, it's much more difficult to fit an engine without the subframe attached. Most fuel lines can be run prior to offering up the engine anyway, so there's little gain to be had.


#519 Mopeytitan

Mopeytitan

    Billy No Mates

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,908 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Yeovil, Somerset
  • Interests:Cars, Motorbikes, well anything mechanical.
    My dogs (love my dogs).
    F1.

Posted 19 August 2014 - 03:58 PM

How's the car coming G? Any updates?

#520 CocoPops

CocoPops

    SuperCharged Karting Super Hero

  • 17,181 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Thatcham, Berks

Posted 19 August 2014 - 04:00 PM

He's on holiday... Getting engaged.
Back to Projects



Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: saab, b207, supercharged, m62, ats dtc, composite worx, re-spray, coupe

1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

  1. VX220 Owners Club
  2. → General Discussion
  3. → Tuning & Modifications
  4. → Projects
  5. Privacy Policy