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#41 siztenboots

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 11:21 AM

fuel pressure regulator , static pressure or indexed to manifold?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 11:54 AM

If joe fitted the tmap, the old sensor wiring should be gone from the pipe between air filter and throttlebody.

Can you check?

 



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 12:11 PM

Peter can you send me a copy of your base map And also chrisP duck to I will compare the cold start setting within the software to the setting I had with my stage 2

I just sent you two maps and log files. Cheers.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 01:57 PM

fuel pressure regulator , static pressure or indexed to manifold?

FPR connected to boost on mine and map set up for this configuration.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 02:51 PM

so could it be the walbro replacement fuel pumps not priming quick enough causing the starting issues  :poke:



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 02:59 PM

its trying to explain why its okay with standard ecu firmware

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:01 PM

Possibly, does Bargi have a Walbro? Strange how it works with the CS map and not OBD though 😖

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:02 PM

I'm going to look at the cold start setting on peter map now And compare it to my old stage two settings which I had no issue with Give 10 mins

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:02 PM

simple test - turn ignition on and whilst pump is priming push start button, so only one second delay between ignition on and starter button press



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:03 PM

Possibly, does Bargi have a Walbro? Strange how it works with the CS map and not OBD though 😖

yes and so does pete-r



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:10 PM

Peter R setup is setup for tmap 2.5 bar was this installed?



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:16 PM

At idle all other cars sit about 10% open while the problematic ones sit at 17%

Balls, this will teach me to assume mine was the same and not check.

Peter said my TB is actually more closed than normal. Looking at my logs my TB is around 6% open at idle. (Assuming pos throttle valve is the position of the TB butterfly?)

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PS logs sent Chill.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:24 PM

The map deltas are different between mine and peter-r

 

will have a look at chris P ducks now

 

 

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mine is at top 

peter-r is below


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:24 PM

Peter R setup is setup for tmap 2.5 bar was this installed?

lsj TMAP installed



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:30 PM

 

Peter R setup is setup for tmap 2.5 bar was this installed?

lsj TMAP installed

 

 

lsj is not listed and not supported by dutch software 

 

what bar is it 



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:33 PM

Its a weird one. Problem with std CS stg 2 setup with MAP sensor I was getting the problem. TMAP months later and still the same. I wont get a chance till early next month to try swapping the TB.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:36 PM

These are the listed  map sensors

 

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:52 PM

simple test - turn ignition on and whilst pump is priming push start button, so only one second delay between ignition on and starter button press

Just tried (finger ready on starter and hit the moment the fuel pump finished priming, 8 seconds of cranking then spluttered to life.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:59 PM

I've had a look at the pipe work, the fpr pipe comes off the end of the rail, back and into the inlet manifold. Also I can see the sensor on the manifold the part number is 0261230042. Not sure if you can tell what bar rating it is from there? Also I send Peter my data and he came back with this which could be relevant? "I did see you have a P1512 (Throttle Position Minimum Learning not completed) at one point in time. This is the ECU complaining it did not complete the throttle position learning which could have a negative influence on the starting behavior." This is all completely over my head so I'm hoping you boffins can help...

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 04:02 PM

 

 

Peter R setup is setup for tmap 2.5 bar was this installed?

lsj TMAP installed

 

 

lsj is not listed and not supported by dutch software 

 

what bar is it 

 

Same as the bosch 2.5 bar which is supported by the software






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