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[Matthew Bentley Racing Ltd]

Sorry if I have wound you up George. I wasn't meaning too. This is the first thread I felt I could participate in without risking an forum killing if I said something 'wrong'. That is also why I just tried to keep to the timesheet facts rather than my opinion.

[darronwall]

all you driving gods,here is one for you,could you please find the times set by the darlington and district motor club that did croft on the same day as ta in 2013??

you might just realise how much crap is spoken on here if someone finds the times

[Scuffers]

Lol! Anybody can look it up: http://www.smart-tim...th-12th May.pdf That said, i have no idea what your getting at? - your going to have to give us a clue?

[darronwall]

well done,i am a simple builder and don't have the computer know how of how to look things up,but 1,33 set by a mid 70s Datsun 240z sort of tells you how sh*t the times set in ta were.

 

 

[Scuffers]

well done,i am a simple builder and don't have the computer know how of how to look things up,but 1,33 set by a mid 70s Datsun 240z sort of tells you how sh*t the times set in ta were.    

Well, actually, 240z's are pretty sorted cars, in their day they almost threatened the dominance of the lotus elans... (That said, its still 10 seconds down on the time i did last year...)

[Mike (Cliffie)]

You are a god and we are all sh*t. Now that is cleared up can we get back on topic? With 250 BHP stage 2 you will be off the pace in Club RWD FI (unless you are a driving god). Having said that, you will still have a lot of fun so go for it.

[darronwall]

well done again,congrats in going 10s quicker in a 750hp twincharged elise that's had a gazzilion quid thrown at and spent hours in a wind tunnel perfecting its aero,i am not that impressed!!

 

 

[smiley]

but 1,33 set by a mid 70s Datsun 240z sort of tells you how sh*t the times set in ta were.

 

 

 

Think that owner is scuffers brother

 

 

70´s or not, look at the yummie stuff they put into those

http://arizonazcar.com/cars.html

 

 

Edited by smiley, 23 July 2014 - 08:02 PM.

[The Batman]

Umar always says his car is fooked then in the final he is like a dog with mustard on his ars

[Scuffers]

With 250 BHP stage 2 you will be off the pace in Club RWD FI (unless you are a driving god). Having said that, you will still have a lot of fun so go for it.

Disagree... Take your car, what effect do you think losing 100 hp would make? You were doing 1:30 last year, and i think you will agree that you could better that now you know the place a bit better? So, what do you think losing 100hp would leave you at?

[The Batman]

So what you are actually saying is experience is better than having more power. Which is obvious you just have to say it in a scuffers way Problem is more power is cheaper and less time consuming than experience

Edited by The Batman, 23 July 2014 - 08:13 PM.

[Mike (Cliffie)]

With 250 BHP stage 2 you will be off the pace in Club RWD FI (unless you are a driving god). Having said that, you will still have a lot of fun so go for it.

Disagree... Take your car, what effect do you think losing 100 hp would make? You were doing 1:30 last year, and i think you will agree that you could better that now you know the place a bit better? So, what do you think losing 100hp would leave you at?

The question here is not whether you, Dazza, Jimmy or I could compete in Club at 200BHP, the question is how the OP will get on. I think 100 BHP will make a huge difference as I ran 100 BHP down at Oulton so lets look at those times in comparison to club's results.

[darronwall]

 

but 1,33 set by a mid 70s Datsun 240z sort of tells you how sh*t the times set in ta were.

 

 

 

Think that owner is scuffers brother

 

 

70´s or not, look at the yummie stuff they put into those

http://arizonazcar.com/cars.html

 

 

 

 

still had its st6 in it albeit on different carbs,the 205 that did a 1,35 was an 8 valver on throttlebodies,my point is these cars were setting club pro times,it just makes you realise how slow some of the ta drivers are
 

[Scuffers]

 ,my point is these cars were setting club pro times,it just makes you realise how slow some of the ta drivers are  

No argument there...

[darronwall]

 

 

With 250 BHP stage 2 you will be off the pace in Club RWD FI (unless you are a driving god). Having said that, you will still have a lot of fun so go for it.

Disagree... Take your car, what effect do you think losing 100 hp would make? You were doing 1:30 last year, and i think you will agree that you could better that now you know the place a bit better? So, what do you think losing 100hp would leave you at?

The question here is not whether you, Dazza, Jimmy or I could compete in Club at 200BHP, the question is how the OP will get on. I think 100 BHP will make a huge difference as I ran 100 BHP down at Oulton so lets look at those times in comparison to club's results.

 

 

I don't think it would make much difference at all,i honestly think you would need a big leap in bhp to make a small decrease in lap times,i think too much power makes you lazy as a driver  

[Nev]

i think too much power makes you lazy as a driver

Now that's true for sure.

[darronwall]

 

 ,my point is these cars were setting club pro times,it just makes you realise how slow some of the ta drivers are  

No argument there...

 

 

no argument?!?

have you just had a jump?  

[Mike (Cliffie)]

 

 

With 250 BHP stage 2 you will be off the pace in Club RWD FI (unless you are a driving god). Having said that, you will still have a lot of fun so go for it.

Disagree... Take your car, what effect do you think losing 100 hp would make? You were doing 1:30 last year, and i think you will agree that you could better that now you know the place a bit better? So, what do you think losing 100hp would leave you at?

The question here is not whether you, Dazza, Jimmy or I could compete in Club at 200BHP, the question is how the OP will get on. I think 100 BHP will make a huge difference as I ran 100 BHP down at Oulton so lets look at those times in comparison to club's results.  

  I don't think it would make much difference at all,i honestly think you would need a big leap in bhp to make a small decrease in lap times,i think too much power makes you lazy as a driver  

OK, my bad. I was 2 seconds off the pace at Oulton last year when 100 BHP down but would have only managed 2nd in club class behind Amis. Came 4th in ClubPro.

[GeorgeBC]

Sorry if I have wound you up George. I wasn't meaning too. This is the first thread I felt I could participate in without risking an forum killing if I said something 'wrong'. That is also why I just tried to keep to the timesheet facts rather than my opinion.

 

Everything just gets too personal when you start throwing lap times around especially when quoting times that a certain driver or car can do without being aware that the car isn't running properly.

[Matthew Bentley Racing Ltd]

I get that. Was just trying to give an idea of different cars times. That was also my point about taking times roughly as day to day the same car and driver will produce a.different lap time.