246 replies to this topic

[CocoPops]

Ffs guys Just take a selection of cars to croft (I'm sure mike can find you a quiet day), play nicely and see what lap times you can all get. You can then wave your willies as much as you like without slagging each other off

[J13ME]

I'm actually worried about setting a time now LOL Going to get ripped to shreds!

[The Batman]

Did a quicker lap round cadwell than all of you

[G-Bob]

George, what's to say any of the other cars weren't running right?

[The Batman]

Have to give maximum sympathy to northerners otherwise they get there knickers in a twist and throw all of the toys out the pram

[Claws]

Joe, I think my Caddy could do a quicker lap than your Vivaro did. Though in saying that, you were running a triple spoiler, so could probably carry more pace through the more committed corners. Sadly my Caddy only has a double spoiler setup, less grip though less drag...it's all to play for!

Edited by Claws, 24 July 2014 - 12:52 AM.

[The Batman]

I know for a fact if I had 100bhp less I would be slower. Even if stig himself was driving. Although I see your caddy and I raise you my baja bug... If you are still winning I will cut a few corners

[GeorgeBC]

George, what's to say any of the other cars weren't running right?

Absolutely nothing. But the times weren't getting compared to other cars in class the times were getting compared to the best time they could find a 150bhp Elise etc did out of hundreds of cars that have raced. We know we were off the pace even if the car was perfect. I was just putting it out there that the times that were getting quoted weren't a true sign of the pace of the driver car package. Same story for Oulton. On the day Darron managed a 1:57 I think but he does 1:54's round there on a regular trackday. No excuses for that one as the car was brill.

[Scuffers]

nice....

 

 

[siztenboots]

 

i think too much power makes you lazy as a driver

Now that's true for sure.

 

 

sometimes I only push the throttle half way , I'm so lazy

[Claws]

  sometimes I only push the throttle half way , I'm so lazy

[TazN]

OP, sorry I'm not trailing through 9 pages of willy waving bs from the same few as always.

 

If you are/have got your vx is it going to be a dedicated track slag or willy ou be bringing it to a few meets? Always good to meet new owners.

 

If you are going sc then tap into the knowledge of the local guys, will save you a pretty penny. They are called plastic skips for nowt - you just dump money into them!

[Nev]

i think too much power makes you lazy as a driver

Now that's true for sure.

  sometimes I only push the throttle half way , I'm so lazy

LOL, is that so you can empathise with the NA owners? ...FIGHT !

[Scuffers]

Well, this thread has gone the predictable way, maybe we should collectively look at what's been said and try and understand why?   sitting here, seems to be basically because as soon as a laptime is posted, people seem to relate it to themselves and then go on the defencive as they see it as some kind of personal attack on their manhood.   actually, if you go to the root of this, this is the post that kicked it all off:  

both me and George drove past you more times than I have dodged the salad bar!!!!!!

Now, where this came from I have no idea, up until this point, the tread had made no mention of Darron or George, but for some inexplicable reason, Darron decided to jump in... this is the post he was quoting:

 

My point is that you don't need that much of a VX to win club class. Realistically, a well setup VX with ~200+ hp should cut it...

ie, me suggesting that club class is a pretty easy target for a decent well setup VX with ~200Hp

 

 

And with the data we have all seen, I don't think that's unrealistic or saying anything that's out of line, it's certainly not a dig or attack on anybody else.

 

in summary, it would be helpful if some members could keep their dented ego's under control don't you think?

 

 

 

 

 

[ArticMonkey]

I thought the national was a prooving ground? showing how epic people were in cars with more than twice the power of the majority? Only reason I was overtaken at croft was because I was down on 150bhp.

Edited by ArticMonkey, 24 July 2014 - 11:25 AM.

[SteveA]

This is all getting a bit confusing can we please have a numbered list of who is the best please.

[Mike (Cliffie)]

What is clear is that the Donkey did not have the season it deserved due to mechanical gremlins. Dazza should have easily matched Club RWD FI times as the car when on song and driver are both capable. Dazza can outdrive me and I know it.

 

Now, back on topic. Again!

[siztenboots]

In my time I was pretty ace at Chequered Flag on the ZX Spectrum

[Mike (Cliffie)]

This is all getting a bit confusing can we please have a numbered list of who is the best please.

FFS.

 

It is not about who is best. The OP wants to enter TA and between us we have some pretty good experience which he wants to tap into.

 

He is looking to enter the class Jimmy, them me, then Dazza entered so we should be able to offer him some pretty good advice and support without resorting to willy waving.

 

In the end, it isn't about lap times regardless of the continued reminder of who is the greatest of them all. It is about beating the others in your class. You can do a 1:55 round Croft if you like as long as your oppos do a 1:56 you are quick enough. Worth remembering as there is no point in going faster than you have to.

 

Another point worth remembering is the strike rule. Three strikes in TA and you are bumped up a class (unless you are already in Pro) which means you have to play a pretty fine balance of fast enough but not too fast.

 

Final point to make is "to finish first, first you must finish. Championships are not built on or won by a single result.

Edited by Mike (Cliffie), 24 July 2014 - 12:42 PM.

[Graeme Lambert]

Well this ia a yawnathon.

 

Really helping the OP as well... and bullshit threads like this make me embarassed of the forum tbh. Way too much sniping and bitching going on.