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[D-DAWG83]

Well having been away last week, and being away this week, i thought id spend some time sorting a few bits for the VX out.
Goodies


My boot cable did not appear to be attached to anything, so spent some time getting it open. Its easy when you know how. Got it all sorted pretty quickly in the end when i looked at what i actually needed to do, Which was a result.
Fitted a new AUX belt, as i had a really annoying squeak from the engine bay, and the old belt had seen better days. Fitted it on the inner tooth also, not the outer one. None of the new belt, but here is the old one


Had a split outer CV gator, so changed it for a driveshaft that i had spare, and when i was there fitted new CL5 pads, along with belled discs. 2kg a piece lighter than my worn standard discs, totally saving 4kg. Which is pretty decent i think.


Fitted some anti rattle pads for the front pads, so hopefully that will cure the rattly sound i get, sorry no photos of them either. Though as you only get 4, 2 for each caliper, i put a strip of gaffer tape on the other end to take up the rest of the slack in the pad. No idea how long it will last, but worth a go.

Finally fitted my new number plates also, front and back one looking worse for wear. Loads better now


New ones fitted




Just needs a good wash now, but that will have to wait

[haggi961]

Looking good and getting there now 😀 What bells are them ones?

[D-DAWG83]

Elise Parts ones. Not cheap, but look decent quality, see how they get on. My standard disks were past their best, and i wanted an excuse to upgrade. I needed to get rid of the CL6 pads on the rear, as i run CL5's on the fronts, so wanted to see if they will balance it out a little better now

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

not a good idea to run with different pads unless you have done some trials 

[D-DAWG83]

I have CL5 all round now, did have CL6 on the rear, as thats what was on the car when i bought it. I felt i had too much rear braking, so gone for CL5 rear now, hoping that will calm things down abit.

[smiley]

Wise.

Friction between CL5 (.40) and CL6 (.50) is just to big to mix. (in my opinion)

Edited by smiley, 03 July 2016 - 07:14 PM.

[Bargi]

Whoever owned you car last should have his hand strongly smacked. Perhaps 6s on the front and 5s on the rear but not that way around. Sent from my cuntyfuckbollock phone by Twatatalk

[D-DAWG83]

Yep, this car also had an S2 wishbone fitted to the front top, so was pushing the wheel into +ve camber. Lots of ither bits as well that needed sorting over the winter, but getting there now. Bit by bit, £ by £

[D-DAWG83]

Car has AP4 pots on the front, and apparently the CL6's on the back balance out the CL5's fitted to the 4pots.

[smiley]

Interesting.

Not sure if .5 friction balances out the 4 pod part.

I thought 4 pod was about lasting longer, not more stopping power per se?

 

[D-DAWG83]

No idea, but now changed to the same friction all round, so hopefully the car will feel more balanced on track now, the rear felt like it was locking at times

[smiley]

If you do need to slightly rebalance in the end, the RC6e's are .44

 

 

[D-DAWG83]

Ok cool, thank. How do you know so much about the CL stuff?

[smiley]

I don't. I just looked up popular pads friction rates trying to understand why RS14's did not work for me, yet CL6 was a gamechanger for me.

(still don't have the answer, as that difference is in cold byte, and cannot find a way to see any vendor technical labeling to understand the difference)

It did give me this list of friction rates during my search:

  

CL RC5+      µ= 0.40 ferodo DS2500     µ= 0.42

CL RC6Es µ= 0.44 Mintex 1144    µ= 0.45 EBC greenstuf    µ= 0.46 OMP 971C     µ= 0.48 Pagid RS14     µ= 0.50 CL RC6         µ= 0.50 ferodo DS3000     µ= 0.60

CL RC8 μ = 0,60

 

 

As you can see, the difference between RC5 and RC6 is quite big.

(also a big difference in how they chew up your disks, but that's another discussion)

 

Have to say i am very poor at braking, and the CL6's seem to compensate that.

Edited by smiley, 05 July 2016 - 08:08 AM.

[D-DAWG83]

Thanks for that, great info. I ran DS2500's on my Zed, and found them great on track. Still not quite there with the VX yet, im going to bleed the system again, and see if that improves things. Just struggle to get a consistant pedal feel. Hopefully with another bleed all round, and the new rears, things will improve. I think my calipers need a refurb also, which probably is not helping. Noticed that the piston seals i put in last year have crisped up and broken already, which is not good.

[fezzasus]

Use a vacuum bleeder. I had the same problem and that was the only way I managed to get consistent feel.

[D-DAWG83]

Iv been using an EZ bleed, but guessing the vacuum one is even higher powered.

[fezzasus]

Iv been using an EZ bleed, but guessing the vacuum one is even higher powered.

 

Well it's the difference between applying pressure or vacuum.

 

Vacuum selectively removes air as it's lower density so flows towards the vacuum quicker than the fluid, while applying pressure to the tank is more likely to force more air into the system.

 

I've got one like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLEEDER-KIT-NEW-HAND-HELD-BRAKE-BLEED-TEST-TESTER-CAR-MOTOR-BIKE-VACUUM-PUMP/221264602400?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3D75dcbec13315418ab46dd03be96cf97c%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D290981369028 

[D-DAWG83]

Wish id seen that before buying my EZ bleed. If thats better than the EZ bleed, then it looks like a winner. Cheers for the heads up. Hopefully it will cure the issue.

[D-DAWG83]

Not alot of progress recently. Was getting alot of brake dust on the rear wheels, so took the pads out, retracted the pistons, cleaned up the top and botton of the caliper where the pads sit, as one side was a little tight. Dremel'd the area up and put a little grease on it, so see how we get on, also adjusted the handbrake to slacken it off abit. We shall see, a short drive seemed to have stopped the dragging noise i was getting. Also bled the rear calipers, and the clutch. Hoping to get a vacuum bleeder for my birthday in a few weeks, its on my birthday list, so il probably do the whole lot again if that appears. Also appear to have aquired an engine block and cylinder head....

Edited by D-DAWG83, 23 August 2016 - 06:01 AM.