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[MAXR]

Firthy, Your driving looks fine, if anything you had a touch of oversteer at the limit. However, oversteer/understeer only rears its head when you're driving beyond the optimal slip angle. Your car appears to be good through the corners, but how do you know it couldn't be even better through the corners with a different setup?

[Rosssco]

Tony H, on 19 Oct 2015 - 1:24 PM, said:

If I have an opinion you wont find me sexy?

 

Very much so Tony, but more the fact that every c*nt's got one..

[Firthy]

MAXR, on 19 Oct 2015 - 1:33 PM, said:

Firthy, Your driving looks fine, if anything you had a touch of oversteer at the limit. However, oversteer/understeer only rears its head when you're driving beyond the optimal slip angle. Your car appears to be good through the corners, but how do you know it couldn't be even better through the corners with a different setup?

 

I don't know, but how do you know you couldn't go quicker??? you don't even use a data logger....

 

As a comparison....Zoo beef (Mark) has a very stiff setup and was in the 2.23's at Snetterton the main difference between us is tire compound Federal Rsr vs myself running on Avons.

 

[color=rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;]Power should be exactly the same...... That's 7 seconds a lap slower.[/color]

 

[color=rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;]You've said your self you weren't pushing and you don't use a data logger, just feel![/color]

 

[color=rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;]I'm trying to look at facts [/color]

 

[color=rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;]I'm not saying your setup isn't absolutely brilliant.... I have never said that please show me where I did?[/color]

 

​Just trying to have another opinion that's clearly not welcome.... or allowed

Edited by Firthy, 19 October 2015 - 02:13 PM.

[Scuffers]

Snett 300 in 2:16's?

 

where do I start!

 

Honestly, really?

 

Last time I did Snett 300 in a VX, I did 3 laps,  2:03 was the time.

 

Never done the 300 in an NA VX, but I suspect I could better 2:16...

[Firthy]

Scuffers, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:35 PM, said:

Snett 300 in 2:16's?

 

where do I start!

 

Honestly, really?

 

Last time I did Snett 300 in a VX, I did 3 laps,  2:03 was the time.

 

Never done the 300 in an NA VX, but I suspect I could better 2:16...

 

Yeah my car has 155 bhp though Scuffers not 300. Remember its a power circuit.

 

Never done the 300 in an NA VX, but I suspect I could better 2:16... 

 

Awesome I'd love to see it... stick some avons on Gearys car.

[Firthy]

Scuffers, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:35 PM, said:

 

 

 

I think I can still go quicker, but I would genuinely love to see what you can do.

Edited by Firthy, 19 October 2015 - 02:51 PM.

[The Batman]

No offence to anyone, but I imagine scuffers can out drive 99.5% of all of us on here But Anyways... Why is this thread now a willy waving one?

[Scuffers]

The Batman, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:49 PM, said:

But Anyways... Why is this thread now a willy waving one?

 

he started it! 

[Matthew Bentley Racing Ltd]

Scuffers, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:53 PM, said:

The Batman, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:49 PM, said:

But Anyways... Why is this thread now a willy waving one?

he started it! 

Bff's now...

[MAXR]

Firthy, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:11 PM, said:

MAXR, on 19 Oct 2015 - 1:33 PM, said:

Firthy, Your driving looks fine, if anything you had a touch of oversteer at the limit. However, oversteer/understeer only rears its head when you're driving beyond the optimal slip angle. Your car appears to be good through the corners, but how do you know it couldn't be even better through the corners with a different setup?

 
I don't know, but how do you know you couldn't go quicker??? you don't even use a data logger....
 
As a comparison....Zoo beef (Mark) has a very stiff setup and was in the 2.23's at Snetterton the main difference between us is tire compound Federal Rsr vs myself running on Avons.
 
[color=rgb(40,40,40);][font="helvetica;"]Power should be exactly the same...... That's 7 seconds a lap slower.[/color][/font]
 
[color=rgb(40,40,40);][font="helvetica;"]You've said your self you weren't pushing and you don't use a data logger, just feel![/color][/font]
 
[color=rgb(40,40,40);][font="helvetica;"]I'm trying to look at facts [/color][/font]
 
[color=rgb(40,40,40);][font="helvetica;"]I'm not saying your setup isn't absolutely brilliant.... I have never said that please show me where I did?[/color][/font]
 
​Just trying to have another opinion that's clearly not welcome.... or allowed

Mmm...I'm not trying to compare my lap times, they're of no interest to me. You however, are comparing yourself to another car & driver, therefore it is totally pointless! What should be of interest to you is how your times have improved through the corners from your last setup (I presume the 1" ARB upgrade)

Also, If you put Randy or Scuffers in your car, they would make you look like a total amateur! So what would that comparison say?

...say what you're going to say, I've never asked you not to. When others put forward a comment that you don't agree with, then offer constructive criticism or yes, you should shut up!

P.S I also have a vbox lite system, but haven't used it for several Trackdays. Would you like me to next time so that you can prove a point?

[The Batman]

Matthew Bentley Racing Ltd, on 19 Oct 2015 - 3:00 PM, said:

Scuffers, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:53 PM, said:

The Batman, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:49 PM, said:

But Anyways... Why is this thread now a willy waving one?

he started it! 

Bff's now...

We are going to the cinema tomorrow Two for Tuesday's! I bet he talks all the way through the film... 1" this, stiffer that..

[Firthy]

MAXR, on 19 Oct 2015 - 3:02 PM, said:

 

Firthy, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:11 PM, said:

 

MAXR, on 19 Oct 2015 - 1:33 PM, said:

Firthy, Your driving looks fine, if anything you had a touch of oversteer at the limit. However, oversteer/understeer only rears its head when you're driving beyond the optimal slip angle. Your car appears to be good through the corners, but how do you know it couldn't be even better through the corners with a different setup?

 
I don't know, but how do you know you couldn't go quicker??? you don't even use a data logger....
 
As a comparison....Zoo beef (Mark) has a very stiff setup and was in the 2.23's at Snetterton the main difference between us is tire compound Federal Rsr vs myself running on Avons.
 
[color=rgb(40,40,40);][font="helvetica;"]Power should be exactly the same...... That's 7 seconds a lap slower.[/color][/font]
 
[color=rgb(40,40,40);][font="helvetica;"]You've said your self you weren't pushing and you don't use a data logger, just feel![/color][/font]
 
[color=rgb(40,40,40);][font="helvetica;"]I'm trying to look at facts [/color][/font]
 
[color=rgb(40,40,40);][font="helvetica;"]I'm not saying your setup isn't absolutely brilliant.... I have never said that please show me where I did?[/color][/font]
 
​Just trying to have another opinion that's clearly not welcome.... or allowed

Mmm...I'm not trying to compare my lap times, they're of no interest to me. You however, are comparing yourself to another car & driver, therefore it is totally pointless! What should be of interest to you is how your times have improved through the corners from your last setup (I presume the 1" ARB upgrade)

Also, If you put Randy or Scuffers in your car, they would make you look like a total amateur! So what would that comparison say?

...say what you're going to say, I've never asked you not to. When others put forward a comment that you don't agree with, then offer constructive criticism or yes, you should shut up!

P.S I also have a vbox lite system, but haven't used it for several Trackdays. Would you like me to next time so that you can prove a point?

 

 

 

Well lets be honest..... my car feels faster isn't proof! Oh and yes I am comparing my times...

 

Also, If you put Randy or Scuffers in your car, they would make you look like a total amateur! So what would that comparison say? - It would be a very useful bench mark.

 

When others put forward a comment that you don't agree with, then offer constructive criticism or yes, you should shut up!

 

Remember I haven't once said my setup is better than yours, I'm just putting forward my opinion.

 

If I did please enlighten me.

[Matthew Bentley Racing Ltd]

The Batman, on 19 Oct 2015 - 3:05 PM, said:

Matthew Bentley Racing Ltd, on 19 Oct 2015 - 3:00 PM, said:

Scuffers, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:53 PM, said:

The Batman, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:49 PM, said:

But Anyways... Why is this thread now a willy waving one?

he started it! 

Bff's now...

We are going to the cinema tomorrow Two for Tuesday's! I bet he talks all the way through the film... 1" this, stiffer that..

My missis always says it should be 1" more and stiffer.......

[The Batman]

She doesn't say that to me

[MAXR]

Firthy, If you're so interested in my times (which is sad!) just go to YouTube & bring up a couple of my videos of Snetterton 300. Play them side by side & come back & let us all know what you're professional opinion is! ...Yes, of course Randy & Scuffers would make me look like an amateur too if they drove my car. Your driving is neither good nor is it bad. If you're such a hot shot & your lap times are that important to you, then go racing or do time attack. I only go on track days for pleasure. I don't even know if we met on track at the National (I've no idea which car is yours) but, I presume we did & you were much quicker than me? If so congratulations! Matt, in this case, the size of your thick bar does matter!

[Firthy]

MAXR, on 19 Oct 2015 - 4:00 PM, said:

Firthy, If you're so interested in my times (which is sad!) just go to YouTube & bring up a couple of my videos of Snetterton 300. Play them side by side & come back & let us all know what you're professional opinion is! ...Yes, of course Randy & Scuffers would make me look like an amateur too if they drove my car. Your driving is neither good nor is it bad. If you're such a hot shot & your lap times are that important to you, then go racing or do time attack. I only go on track days for pleasure. I don't even know if we met on track at the National (I've no idea which car is yours) but, I presume we did & you were much quicker than me? If so congratulations! Matt, in this case, the size of your thick bar does matter!

 

No I'm not interested in your times max I've made that pretty clear above....

[chris_uk]

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Edited by chris_uk, 19 October 2015 - 04:40 PM.

[chris_uk]

Scuffers, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:35 PM, said:

Snett 300 in 2:16's?

 

where do I start!

 

Honestly, really?

 

Last time I did Snett 300 in a VX, I did 3 laps,  2:03 was the time.

 

Never done the 300 in an NA VX, but I suspect I could better 2:16...

 

2'03..... come on now.. 

 

i know mike managed a 2'07.6, and you managed a 2'02.044 in jamies exige.. in 2012... 

 

did we even do the 300 circuit in 2013 ? i know we did the 200...  

Edited by chris_uk, 19 October 2015 - 04:40 PM.

[Scuffers]

chris_uk, on 19 Oct 2015 - 4:39 PM, said:

 

Scuffers, on 19 Oct 2015 - 2:35 PM, said:

Snett 300 in 2:16's?

 

where do I start!

 

Honestly, really?

 

Last time I did Snett 300 in a VX, I did 3 laps,  2:03 was the time.

 

Never done the 300 in an NA VX, but I suspect I could better 2:16...

 

2'03..... come on now.. 

 

i know mike managed a 2'07.6, and you managed a 2'02.044 in jamies exige.. in 2012... 

 

did we even do the 300 circuit in 2013 ? i know we did the 200...  

 

not sure where you got the 2:02 in 2012 from?

 

did a 1:57.463 in the TA final, if that helps?

 

As for the VX time, that was in Mike's car (on the same test day I lost my eyebrows in Jamie's), when it was suffering from cutting out with the MAP sensor.

[chris_uk]

ah, so you did. 

 

it was actually a warmup time (although i did think i was looking at the finals time) never mind.