Project Fracas - 6Sp A20Nft
#1221
Posted 24 July 2019 - 05:25 AM
#1222
Posted 18 August 2019 - 08:51 PM
Part 1 - went and got the front clam out of storage, and am starting to rough out the needy to get it mounted.
#1223
Posted 18 August 2019 - 09:00 PM
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#1232
Posted 19 August 2019 - 09:10 AM
Lovely job!
#1233
Posted 19 August 2019 - 10:53 AM
Nice job Ed.! Well, the design and machining, I know nothing about compsites
Side ECU / electrical question - what did you do for the VSS (vehicle speed signal) on your motor? Take the original one from the ABS controller, or tap into the ABS sensor direct?
#1234
Posted 19 August 2019 - 11:39 AM
swan neck style and really wide wing
Nice job Ed.! Well, the design and machining, I know nothing about compsites
Side ECU / electrical question - what did you do for the VSS (vehicle speed signal) on your motor? Take the original one from the ABS controller, or tap into the ABS sensor direct?
That's not that easy with the original ECU.
It needs the VSS signal via HS-CAN Bus.
If no signal is present your ECU will limit the Power to about 80 bhp and the Revs to about 3000.
On the "kopp racing" ECU I implemented a digital pulse input pin and changed the software to accept a physical input on the ECU.
You can directly use the VSS wire that goes to the original ECU.
Then I adjusted a calculation parameter to match the output VSS of the ABS Controller.
#1235
Posted 20 August 2019 - 08:09 PM
swan neck style and really wide wing
Nice job Ed.! Well, the design and machining, I know nothing about compsites
Side ECU / electrical question - what did you do for the VSS (vehicle speed signal) on your motor? Take the original one from the ABS controller, or tap into the ABS sensor direct?
That's not that easy with the original ECU.
It needs the VSS signal via HS-CAN Bus.
If no signal is present your ECU will limit the Power to about 80 bhp and the Revs to about 3000.
On the "kopp racing" ECU I implemented a digital pulse input pin and changed the software to accept a physical input on the ECU.
You can directly use the VSS wire that goes to the original ECU.
Then I adjusted a calculation parameter to match the output VSS of the ABS Controller.
Thanks Dominik - This sounds like the correct way to do it.
I know in HP Tuners you can change the scaling to calibrate for different wheel speed inputs or tyre rolling radius, if you have a separate VSS sensor (like the older E39, I think).
#1236
Posted 21 August 2019 - 08:44 AM
Exactly that is the Value I mapped my new DI-Pulse to.
So any chiptuner or even GM / Opel can match the wheelspeed if you change the tyre size.
Or of course you can use Efilive / HP Tuners or similar to change that value.
Well I was looking for another way first.
I wanted to emulate the Astra ABS on the CAN Bus.
Turned out it was not possible even with the secret DBC File
The problem was there are three CAN-Bus Systems on the Astra VXR.
ABS-ECU uses two of them simultanously... nightmare.
The direct link from VX220 ABS via an existing VSS wire to A20NFT ECU was a lot of work for me but the easiest way for the user to replicate it now
Just take the VX220 VSS Wire, solder or crimp on a pin, then insert the pin into the OE A20NFT Loom - done.
#1237
Posted 21 August 2019 - 11:49 AM
So the VX ABS does that produce a simple pulse, or is it in some other form? Presumably not CAN as its not used on the VX I think?
I wasn't sure if you reused the X2 / X3 connectors on your swaps, or bypassed these all together (with good reason!)
#1238
Posted 21 August 2019 - 12:19 PM
Vx ABS signal is a 0-5v square wave from memory.
(For the LSJ ecu we needed a +/- sin signal, but the square wave through a capacitor was enough.)
#1239
Posted 21 August 2019 - 12:50 PM
Vx ABS signal is a 0-5v square wave from memory.
(For the LSJ ecu we needed a +/- sin signal, but the square wave through a capacitor was enough.)
Was that the ABS signal from the controller (through loom connector) or direct from a hub sensor?
Makes sense for the LSJ ECU - think that originally uses a F35 gearbox which has a physical speed sensor / sender (rather than an ABS signal)
#1240
Posted 21 August 2019 - 02:46 PM
Yep, 5V Pulse Signal. Frequency = Speed.
It is the same Signal (same wire) that goes to the Dash.
On the VX220 it is Pin 11 on X3. A Yellow wire with grey stripe.
You can delete X2 and X3 as they often cause trouble because of the poor sealing.
Almost all wires (like VSS, the 6 Acc-Pedal wires, supply voltage, etc.) that come from the car harness go to the new A20NFT Connector X1 (blue).
So that blue connector becomes the new vehicle harness termination.
That means you only disconnect the new X2 (black) and new X3 (grey) from the A20NFT ECU and you can take out the engine.
Apart from 3-4 wires which still come from the engine loom.
Those wires I always connect through a small AMP connector like that:
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