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#701 christhegasman

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 12:59 PM

 

Unless i picked up your last post incorrectly you are pissed off at the EU because UK governments have been chinless. That's not the EU's fault.

You missed the point the U.K. Governments do not have the power or will not fight eu decisions that are not riight for us in the uk so get out the eu and make our own decisions which is I think what most of this is about ? There will always be some who will be effected more by a vote either way which is why we are having a majority vote ? Which the decision is probably already decided 😢  
Because they'll suddenly develop the intelligence, resolve and stamina to negotiate favourable exit terms and future trade agreements on Friday morning?
Probably not but they may not have diplomats from every other eu country telling them what they must do 😀

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 12:59 PM

 

Unless i picked up your last post incorrectly you are pissed off at the EU because UK governments have been chinless. That's not the EU's fault.

You missed the point the U.K. Governments do not have the power or will not fight eu decisions that are not riight for us in the uk so get out the eu and make our own decisions which is I think what most of this is about ? There will always be some who will be effected more by a vote either way which is why we are having a majority vote ? Which the decision is probably already decided 😢  
Because they'll suddenly develop the intelligence, resolve and stamina to negotiate favourable exit terms and future trade agreements on Friday morning?
Probably not but they may not have diplomats from every other eu country telling them what they must do 😀

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 01:01 PM

But they will. They'll be on the other side of the table.

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 01:02 PM

But they will. They'll be on the other side of the table.

So same old same old whichever way the vote goes then 😀

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 01:05 PM

Sort of. I wonder which items will be thrown under the bus in order that we have access to their market? I doubt the fishermen will be happy by the end of it again....

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 02:35 PM

Are we in yet?



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 02:40 PM

....I'm no sure. :lol:

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 03:43 PM

....I'm no sure. :lol:

Scamerron is 😀

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 04:23 PM

I'm less clear now about how to vote than I was at the start of the campaigning. I want to be part of Europe and the single market. Happy for the aligned safety standards, regulation and no trade barriers. I want to be a Brit who works closely with my neighbours in mainland Europe but I don't want Brussels to move us further towards a federal superstate or hand more control to the Brussels bureaucrats. I don't want free movement of people...whilst I welcome the idea in principle, there is such a disparity in living standards, costs and culture that it doesn't work at present. If people chose to come to Britain then it takes years for the infrastructure to catch up and it's painful in the meantime. When they leave as other countries become more attractive, well be left with empty ghost towns. Neither of these appeal to me.. I don't like either choice. I wish Germany and France had listened to Cameron and their people and opened the treaties at the point of renegotiation..

 

This is basically how I feel about it TBH



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 04:43 PM

....I'm no sure. :lol:

Scamerron is 😀

Are you near 50% of leave voters who think the vote is rigged?

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 04:55 PM

....I'm no sure. :lol:

Scamerron is 😀
Are you near 50% of leave voters who think the vote is rigged?
I just think even if we vote out it will take the lazy politicians so long to divorce us from Brussels that most of us will have forgotten about it 😀 At which time they will probably sell us another vote to rejoin 😀

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 05:13 PM

Sounds like a bunch of people are happy to stay in what they admit is an unhappy marriage because leaving might get messy. We've been trying to change the eu from the inside for 40 years. What wakes you think we're going to be any more successful once they realise were in regardless of how bad things get.

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 05:29 PM

Sounds like a bunch of people are happy to stay in what they admit is an unhappy marriage because leaving might get messy. We've been trying to change the eu from the inside for 40 years. What wakes you think we're going to be any more successful once they realise were in regardless of how bad things get.

I'm not my postal vote to leave has already gone 😀

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 05:31 PM

What is it you would like to see changed?

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 06:46 PM

Sounds like a bunch of people are happy to stay in what they admit is an unhappy marriage because leaving might get messy. We've been trying to change the eu from the inside for 40 years. What wakes you think we're going to be any more successful once they realise were in regardless of how bad things get.

 

 

 

...Many people who have looked outside their marriage, admits they wish they never strayed...& there's no going back!

 

What makes you & others think life for you & your family will be better? are you willing to take that chance?  Do you own a house? Have a good job? nice car? family?....bet365.com anyone?



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 06:48 PM

Damn it, I just noticed the advertising on this site with Richard Branson for in...Yay! 

 

 



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 07:08 PM

Sounds like a bunch of people are happy to stay in what they admit is an unhappy marriage because leaving might get messy. We've been trying to change the eu from the inside for 40 years. What wakes you think we're going to be any more successful once they realise were in regardless of how bad things get.

      ...Many people who have looked outside their marriage, admits they wish they never strayed...& there's no going back!   What makes you & others think life for you & your family will be better? are you willing to take that chance?  Do you own a house? Have a good job? nice car? family?....bet365.com anyone?
Yes I have a family and a house and a job /car But will the next generation have any of it if we stay in ( won't be worth having a car roads are too crowded now ) if we leave who would want to go back 😀

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 07:54 PM

..tonights debate started of well...but is mud slinging and you said this you told a lie on both sides...wtf.

 

...its worse than question time at HoC.....

 

..what the feck is going to happen in or out...can someone (us common people) get all the feckers out and we can have some common sense...

 

my vote or anybodies else in or out is a waste of fecking time..no change will happen,..



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 08:14 PM

What will happen to fuel prices if we leave?

 



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 08:18 PM

 

 

Sounds like a bunch of people are happy to stay in what they admit is an unhappy marriage because leaving might get messy. We've been trying to change the eu from the inside for 40 years. What wakes you think we're going to be any more successful once they realise were in regardless of how bad things get.

      ...Many people who have looked outside their marriage, admits they wish they never strayed...& there's no going back!   What makes you & others think life for you & your family will be better? are you willing to take that chance?  Do you own a house? Have a good job? nice car? family?....bet365.com anyone?
Yes I have a family and a house and a job /car But will the next generation have any of it if we stay in ( won't be worth having a car roads are too crowded now ) if we leave who would want to go back 😀

 

 

Your reply is so simplistic & naive... It's the sort of response I'd expect from a child. 






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