Petition to allow Stuart Pearce to retake his 1990 semi final penalty.

The Referendum - In Or Out
#1141
Posted 26 June 2016 - 06:19 PM
#1142
Posted 26 June 2016 - 06:36 PM
Because 60% would mean a more decisive win. At less than 2% difference the people of the UK (who bothered to vote) haven't really spoken. I was genuinely surprised how close it was.So the reason for the petition is that a figure of 60% in favour of leave wasnt reached, not sure why he picks this particular figure. Ok so the Scottish independence referendum result was 55% ish in favour of staying in with the rest of us. Therefore, by the petition starters own reasoning, the Scots should have a second referendum too, in chronolgical order of course. So the Scots vote for independence which it seems they would do now. After that we have the second EU referendum excluding Scotland because they are now seperate and can make their own arrangements. Exclude Scotland from the voting map below and even with some voters changing thier minds because they were "lied" to it would be a walk over for leave. You cant just cherry pick the referendum you want re-run because it suits your argument.
#1143
Posted 26 June 2016 - 06:42 PM
Because 60% would mean a more decisive win. At less than 2% difference the people of the UK (who bothered to vote) haven't really spoken. I was genuinely surprised how close it was.So the reason for the petition is that a figure of 60% in favour of leave wasnt reached, not sure why he picks this particular figure. Ok so the Scottish independence referendum result was 55% ish in favour of staying in with the rest of us. Therefore, by the petition starters own reasoning, the Scots should have a second referendum too, in chronolgical order of course. So the Scots vote for independence which it seems they would do now. After that we have the second EU referendum excluding Scotland because they are now seperate and can make their own arrangements. Exclude Scotland from the voting map below and even with some voters changing thier minds because they were "lied" to it would be a walk over for leave. You cant just cherry pick the referendum you want re-run because it suits your argument.
1% 2% 5% it makes no difference, according to the rules they have spoken.
I hear someone in Oz has started a petition to replay the 3 rugby tests
#1144
Posted 26 June 2016 - 07:02 PM
Ha ha, yes the rules! Tbf, I haven't even looked at the petition link, I just saw your comment. What's done is done. Over to Boris and the out crowd1% 2% 5% it makes no difference, according to the rules they have spoken. I hear someone in Oz has started a petition to replay the 3 rugby tests
Because 60% would mean a more decisive win. At less than 2% difference the people of the UK (who bothered to vote) haven't really spoken. I was genuinely surprised how close it was.So the reason for the petition is that a figure of 60% in favour of leave wasnt reached, not sure why he picks this particular figure. Ok so the Scottish independence referendum result was 55% ish in favour of staying in with the rest of us. Therefore, by the petition starters own reasoning, the Scots should have a second referendum too, in chronolgical order of course. So the Scots vote for independence which it seems they would do now. After that we have the second EU referendum excluding Scotland because they are now seperate and can make their own arrangements. Exclude Scotland from the voting map below and even with some voters changing thier minds because they were "lied" to it would be a walk over for leave. You cant just cherry pick the referendum you want re-run because it suits your argument.
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#1145
Posted 26 June 2016 - 07:35 PM
It was a 4% difference not 2. And Camerons still in charge not Boris or Farage.
So hopefully he's had a nice weekend and can get cracking this weekm
#1146
Posted 26 June 2016 - 07:39 PM
Anyone thats unfortunate enough to be on my FB will know I am a committed "innie" but screw it it is done now rightly or wrongly we do have to crack on. The defenition of cracking on should become apparent over the next 6 months. I have to chuckle at some of the expectation that we are just going to press a button and become a proud independent nation within 2 years. There are years of complex negotiations ahead and negotiations in areas like trade where we are short on experience. After all who has been doing our trade negotiations of late? There was a senior civil servant on the wireless over the weekend who reckons we have 30 people properly capable of dealing with trade negotiations. His estimate of the number of people required? 300.
#1147
Posted 26 June 2016 - 07:40 PM
I'm heading to Gibraltar tomorrow so I'll do my bit to keep the Spanish out.
Try to get along.
#1148
Posted 26 June 2016 - 07:57 PM
I can't count!It was a 4% difference not 2. And Camerons still in charge not Boris or Farage. So hopefully he's had a nice weekend and can get cracking this weekm

#1149
Posted 26 June 2016 - 07:59 PM
#1150
Posted 26 June 2016 - 08:08 PM
Is it me or does chris Evans rolls number plate say brexit
I'm sure it says cnut
#1151
Posted 26 June 2016 - 08:37 PM
#1152
Posted 26 June 2016 - 08:57 PM
#1153
Posted 26 June 2016 - 08:59 PM
of course he was, and he was planning on a narrow remain victory to win the leadership race in a year's time.
Will he press the button though?
There is so much mileage in this. People bemoaning the chance of a second referendum are shortly going to have a lot more to moan about.
I'm all for going along with it. No one knows what the 'it' is yet though, least of all those who think their victory is a mandate. Ultimately, my sense is that the most disappointed will be those that voted 'leave'. I say that because they if you start with the expectation of 100% of something, then anything less will always be a disappointment. Especially when its likely to be, I dunno, 20-30%?
#1154
Posted 26 June 2016 - 09:06 PM
Personally, I think Boris is now toxic and unelectable post-referendum. He may well become default Prime Minister by taking over from Cameron but I can't see him winning an election for them. in 3/4 years time.
#1155
Posted 26 June 2016 - 09:10 PM

#1156
Posted 26 June 2016 - 09:14 PM
#1157
Posted 26 June 2016 - 09:25 PM
Ultimately, my sense is that the most disappointed will be those that voted 'leave'. I say that because they if you start with the expectation of 100% of something, then anything less will always be a disappointment. Especially when its likely to be, I dunno, 20-30%?
Vast swaythes of leave voters have already got what they wanted. They wanted to stick it to those they perceive to be in power and who ignore them. Job done, a large amount of them dont care what happens now
#1158
Posted 26 June 2016 - 09:34 PM
That seems fair, the protest vote. Pretty risky. Probably why there are now some who voted 'leave' never expecting to happen and now questioning their decision.
#1159
Posted 26 June 2016 - 09:36 PM
The political class has treated the electorate with such contempt for as long as I can remember nothing would surprise me to be honest. As I've said democracy only appears to be the preferred way when it suits.Vast swaythes of leave voters have already got what they wanted. They wanted to stick it to those they perceive to be in power and who ignore them. Job done, a large amount of them dont care what happens nowUltimately, my sense is that the most disappointed will be those that voted 'leave'. I say that because they if you start with the expectation of 100% of something, then anything less will always be a disappointment. Especially when its likely to be, I dunno, 20-30%?
#1160
Posted 26 June 2016 - 09:39 PM
Sorry, did the "political class" just evaporate (well okay, maybe Osborne has)? Do you really think Westminster will be any different next week than it was last week? Will your voice carry any more weight next month than it did last month?
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