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[Zoobeef]

There's a petition started to bring Micheal Jackson back from the dead. Going to sign that one because it's actually good thing.

Peado needs his comeuppance

[TheHood]

 

 Ultimately, my sense is that the most disappointed will be those that voted 'leave'. I say that because they if you start with the expectation of 100% of something, then anything less will always be a disappointment. Especially when its likely to be, I dunno, 20-30%?

Vast swaythes of leave voters have already got what they wanted. They wanted to stick it to those they perceive to be in power and who ignore them. Job done, a large amount of them dont care what happens now

 

 

 

I hope you're right, because if they do care and they're not happy with the settlement we get, they'll be even more pissed off than before and who knows who'd they would vote for then if they said what they wanted to hear. 

[techieboy]

Well, given Sterlings continuing falls on the Far East markets, I hope Osborne's statement before the European markets open has some kind of steadying effect. At this rate we'll be 1:1 against the $ and the € by the end of the week.

[smiley]

Wohoo, cheap headlights.

[JG]

You know that not 100% thing: Boris wrote this today: "I cannot stress too much that Britain is part of Europe, and always will be. "There will still be intense and intensifying European cooperation and partnership in a huge number of fields: the arts, the sciences, the universities, and on improving the environment. "EU citizens living in this country will have their rights fully protected, and the same goes for British citizens living in the EU. "British people will still be able to go and work in the EU; to live; to travel; to study; to buy homes and to settle down. As the German equivalent of the CBI - the BDI - has very sensibly reminded us, there will continue to be free trade, and access to the single market." "The only change - and it will not come in any great rush - is that the UK will extricate itself from the EU's extraordinary and opaque system of legislation: the vast and growing corpus of law enacted by a European Court of Justice from which there can be no appeal." In other words, plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. - No change in migration - no change is single market (and the requirements that brings) - no change in how we find the EU The only difference is no power.

[JG]

Well, given Sterlings continuing falls on the Far East markets, I hope Osborne's statement before the European markets open has some kind of steadying effect. At this rate we'll be 1:1 against the $ and the by the end of the week.

I've got $100 left over from last week in cash. Will be using it to pay my mortgage off on Friday...

[techieboy]

 

That said, if it's in cash, you'd better hope the bank staff haven't all fcuked off to Dublin/Frankfurt/Paris

[techieboy]

You know that not 100% thing: Boris wrote this today: "I cannot stress too much that Britain is part of Europe, and always will be. "There will still be intense and intensifying European cooperation and partnership in a huge number of fields: the arts, the sciences, the universities, and on improving the environment. "EU citizens living in this country will have their rights fully protected, and the same goes for British citizens living in the EU. "British people will still be able to go and work in the EU; to live; to travel; to study; to buy homes and to settle down. As the German equivalent of the CBI - the BDI - has very sensibly reminded us, there will continue to be free trade, and access to the single market." "The only change - and it will not come in any great rush - is that the UK will extricate itself from the EU's extraordinary and opaque system of legislation: the vast and growing corpus of law enacted by a European Court of Justice from which there can be no appeal." In other words, plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. - No change in migration - no change is single market (and the requirements that brings) - no change in how we find the EU The only difference is no power.

 

I love how he's already presuming he'll have any further part to play and won't just continue to be a back bench MP with a non-role in the cabinet meetings.

[slindborg]

Games of Thrones references totally go over my head. No idea why people watch it.   What is hilarious, is the shower of sh!t that is Labour. Somehow, no matter how badly the Tories have fcuked up over the last couple of years and have opened themselves up to attack, Labour always contrive to create an even bigger internal crisis. It's like they read the manual of spin by Alistair Campbell about burying bad news amongst other crises and do the exact opposite. Probably out of spite for the New Labour thing. 

Why does anybody watch anything

[KurtVerbose]

You know that not 100% thing: Boris wrote this today: "I cannot stress too much that Britain is part of Europe, and always will be. "There will still be intense and intensifying European cooperation and partnership in a huge number of fields: the arts, the sciences, the universities, and on improving the environment. "EU citizens living in this country will have their rights fully protected, and the same goes for British citizens living in the EU. "British people will still be able to go and work in the EU; to live; to travel; to study; to buy homes and to settle down. As the German equivalent of the CBI - the BDI - has very sensibly reminded us, there will continue to be free trade, and access to the single market." "The only change - and it will not come in any great rush - is that the UK will extricate itself from the EU's extraordinary and opaque system of legislation: the vast and growing corpus of law enacted by a European Court of Justice from which there can be no appeal." In other words, plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. - No change in migration - no change is single market (and the requirements that brings) - no change in how we find the EU The only difference is no power.

 

This is what I wrote earlier in the thread: -

 

I have to give the Swiss experience here. In a 2014 referendum the Swiss very narowly voted to introduce immigration quotas. The implementation of this then throws up all the trade agreements Switzerland has with the EU. The EU says you must accept all the agreements or none - you can't cherry pick.

 

This is the problem of being outside the EU but adopting the single market. You have no say in the rules of the single market, you take them all or none. For this reason, all those who want out because of immigration - I'm not sure you'll get what you want. You may actually get less than you have now because I don't see the UK wanting out of the single market.

 

Unbelievable Boris comes out with that crap now.  

 

[Tony H]

Is there not perhaps a bit of contrition required from the europhiles?

 

They took the country 40 years down a path which has now shown democratically unacceptable.

 

Surely some of the blame for the upheaval is on them?

[KurtVerbose]

Is there not perhaps a bit of contrition required from the europhiles?

 

They took the country 40 years down a path which has now shown democratically unacceptable.

 

Surely some of the blame for the upheaval is on them?

 

Er, Ted Heath took us in. It was Labour who gave a referendum on continuing to be a member in 1975 and the result was 67% in favour.

 

It was Margaret Thatcher who agreed the single eurpean act which brought about the single market.

 

It was John Major who agreed the Maastrict treaty which gave us the EU as it is today with the Euro.

 

So blame them - Ted Heath, 67% of the voters in 1975, Thatcher and Major.  

[mitm]

Strange that you don't mention Blair & Brown and the Lisbon Treaty.

[TFD]

Wohoo, cheap headlights.

There is still a groupbuy on b207's.... getting very temting now huh lol

[KurtVerbose]

Strange that you don't mention Blair & Brown and the Lisbon Treaty.

 

Then them too, but to be fair, the Lisbon treaty did give members the right to leave and a process to do so.

[phippsy]

I'm just starting a petition that unless Iceland beat us by two clear goals we get to play the tie again. It's only fair.

[Mangham54]

Stand a good chance actually.

[phippsy]

Haha out of Europe twice in a week 😞

[Mangham54]

Turn out we need to take lessons from Iceland in more than one way.

[phippsy]

Hodgson for PM