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Posted 11 April 2016 - 04:07 PM

https://petition.par...etitions/116762 I'm sure there will be a balanced debate in parliament...

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 04:56 PM

Just hypothetically... what do you think would happen if humanity thought as much about everyone else as they did themselves?

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 05:54 PM

Just hypothetically... what do you think would happen if humanity thought as much about everyone else as they did themselves?

Shouldn't this be in the Do You Believe In A God thread?



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Posted 11 April 2016 - 08:40 PM

Just hypothetically... what do you think would happen if humanity thought as much about everyone else as they did themselves?

Shouldn't this be in the Do You Believe In A God thread?

I definitely don't believe in God. Good maybe :) My point: I think the world would be better if everyone worked together instead of doing the modern equivalent of throwing spears at each other and claiming more than they need for themselves whilst not caring for anyone else. I think the EU is a step in a good direction. Let all the Polish and other poorer EU countries in, I don't deserve an easier life than them. Birth lottery.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:12 PM

 

 

Just hypothetically... what do you think would happen if humanity thought as much about everyone else as they did themselves?  

Shouldn't this be in the Do You Believe In A God thread?

 

I definitely don't believe in God. Good maybe :) My point: I think the world would be better if everyone worked together instead of doing the modern equivalent of throwing spears at each other and claiming more than they need for themselves whilst not caring for anyone else. I think the EU is a step in a good direction. Let all the Polish and other poorer EU countries in, I don't deserve an easier life than them. Birth lottery.

 

 

If the EU consisted of every country in the World... it would be called... the World.

 

What does an exclusive club stop being if you let anybody in?... an exclusive club.

 

For me, the entire reason I am considering voting out, is the basket cases with extremely fragile economies that we invite in, and the fact that we are even considering inviting Turkey to become a member.

 

I have no real objection to the likes of Poland being in the EU, but there has to be a line somewhere... where do you stop... Syria?  



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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:32 PM

Would Syria be in the state it is if the people there had hope? Genetically they are very similar to us, I'm sure many Brits could act in the same way if they had the same upbringing and life experiences.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:15 PM

The lack of hope isn't caused by not being in the EU... the world over, it is caused by greedy or deranged individuals, and dare I say it... religion... and I'm not picking on one religion when I say that... a significant proportion of the worlds hardship is caused by wars or unrest in the name of one religion or another.



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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:31 PM

I agree with what you're saying, however I feel being part of the EU is a very small step towards uniting the world... Just many many more steps and many more generations. If humanity wants a distant future it will need to work together.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:25 PM

In but only so we ge it to make us better off and stuff the poor/lazy countries

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:26 PM

Dick!

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:29 PM

I'll rephrase that.. Narrow minded, selfish, unsympathetic and unempathetic excuse of a human. Not much more than a dick with legs and a head I guess.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:41 PM

Out let the poor countries look after them selves and then maybe they will learn how to do it instead of holding hands out and getting cash I was always brought up to not expect anything I couldn't afford to pay for so I got a fcuking job And looking even further back my grandparents didn't run off and expect a free life in a different country when hitler bombed the fcuk out of London They stayed and rebuilt it or where would we be now ? 😀

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:51 PM

Empathic when needed..... I look to sort ourselves before helping those who won't (due to laziness, like Greece etc) or can't like 3rd world countries like Wales. One must get off ones high horse when trawling round in a "sports car" as opposed to something more in keeping with socialism

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:52 PM

It's very different being in a country under attack where people are united and want to help each other fight a common evil than being born into a country where people want to kill you unless you give them lots of money or join their group. They have no where to turn. I'm lucky, not more deserving and I sympathise with the less fortunate. I know a man from Syria, both his brothers were killed for not conforming, they were also looking for him but he manged to seek asylum and now has made a good life for himself on our shores programming computers and helping others in a similar position to himself. Both my parents are English, both have been on welfare since I was born, I chose not to follow them and have worked hard but my point is that it doesn't matter what country you're from. I see just as many nasty and lazy English as I do foreigners.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:56 PM

Empathic when needed..... I look to sort ourselves before helping those who won't (due to laziness, like Greece etc) or can't like 3rd world countries like Wales. One must get off ones high horse when trawling round in a "sports car" as opposed to something more in keeping with socialism

Wales, lol. I don't think it's a good idea to say "Greece" is lazy. I'm not English, I'm Richard. It's the individual that counts not the country. Agreed about having a track day car, but I would give a lot up for the world to be equal. I just understand that making my life less luxurious would have very little affect as one person can't change much.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:57 PM

I fully agree we do have way too many lazy English living on the benefit system Which is the reason we as a county can't afford any more untill we are allowed to get our own house in order and are free to spend our own cash on schools and health services to name but two and we can only do this when we stop pissing cash away on our eu contributions for which we get nothing

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:59 PM

Empathic when needed..... I look to sort ourselves before helping those who won't (due to laziness, like Greece etc) or can't like 3rd world countries like Wales. One must get off ones high horse when trawling round in a "sports car" as opposed to something more in keeping with socialism

Wales, lol. I don't think it's a good idea to say "Greece" is lazy. I'm not English, I'm Richard. It's the individual that counts not the country. Agreed about having a track day car, but I would give a lot up for the world to be equal. I just understand that making my life less luxurious would have very little affect as one person can't change much.
Ohh contradictions in the same post... It's as good as religion this

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 08:07 PM

Fcuk me. Call the Sunday Sport. John Lennon is alive and well and posting on here from some hitherto unknown hippy commune in Colchester. Guess the old transcendental meditation must have left him in a trance for the last 30 years from which he's just awoken.



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Posted 12 April 2016 - 08:16 PM

I fully agree we do have way too many lazy English living on the benefit system Which is the reason we as a county can't afford any more untill we are allowed to get our own house in order and are free to spend our own cash on schools and health services to name but two and we can only do this when we stop pissing cash away on our eu contributions for which we get nothing

 

I don't agree with allowing people in to live off the benefit system. That's not the EUs fault that's our stupid system. Although a contradiction, without our stupid system we would have a lot more crime, welfare is a very effective and cheap way of reducing crime.



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Posted 12 April 2016 - 08:18 PM

 

 

Empathic when needed..... I look to sort ourselves before helping those who won't (due to laziness, like Greece etc) or can't like 3rd world countries like Wales. One must get off ones high horse when trawling round in a "sports car" as opposed to something more in keeping with socialism

Wales, lol. I don't think it's a good idea to say "Greece" is lazy. I'm not English, I'm Richard. It's the individual that counts not the country. Agreed about having a track day car, but I would give a lot up for the world to be equal. I just understand that making my life less luxurious would have very little affect as one person can't change much.
Ohh contradictions in the same post... It's as good as religion this

 

 

Where is the contradiction?






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