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#1 TFD

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 02:03 PM

I was looking around to check my sparkplug heat range. Now due my boosted upgrade (2.2 turbo) I want to change to a 1 step colder plug. I now run the OEM NGK LTR6B-10T plugs.

 

Here's the confusion:

 

The Z22SE engine comes with the NGK LTR6B-10T sparkplug,

It seems the USA guys run a LTR5 (or simular ac Delco) plug as OEM = 1 step warmer.

Then there are the people here who run SC stage 2 with OEM plugs....(as well as recomanded by DBilas with there 2.2 turbo setups).

 

.. so I'm a bit confused here what to get. Heat range 7 doesn't seem to hurt but I want some more info before spending 35 quid for nothing.

 

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 02:23 PM

I would do a few miles on the car and then check the spark plugs condition
I did a bit of this last year

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This will help but you need to no the fueling is ok first

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 02:23 PM

The standard plugs seem to cope ok on SC engines (well, mine have), so do you NEED a change..?



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Posted 26 February 2016 - 02:27 PM

Currently using these

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But Ito I ally the Saab uses the same type of plug as a turbo

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 02:42 PM

I did contemplate going a step cooler this year

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 02:44 PM

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 03:06 PM

Spark Plug Bosch HLR8STEX Recommended until 300 z22se horsies

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 03:12 PM

Go one step cooler I remember reading per 100 hp

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 04:05 PM

i choose 7 last year from 6s (NGK) the year before, it was suggested to go for 8s but lowering the compression of the engine can change the temp range also ie need to go hotter with a lower compression 



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Posted 26 February 2016 - 04:06 PM

NGK also say to run a cooler plug rather than a hotter plug if your unsure because there is less chance of damage to engine because of the tip getting to hot



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Posted 26 February 2016 - 05:22 PM

Thanx for the replies guys. Most of it I allready found on the web though lol... Its more the confusion if the oem plug is a 5 or 6 grade. If the US boosted guys go 1 step colder they go to grade 6... which we allready run. @Tibby: Thats a grade 8 plug. To cold in my opinion. We ran a 7 on the 400hp sr20's. I think I'll get a set of NGK LTR7IX-11's and gap them to 0.7. The turbo makes more torque than SC and I run more boost than the DBilas setup. Cheers

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 05:25 PM

do run a saab head ??



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Posted 26 February 2016 - 06:02 PM

No, stock z22se engine.

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 08:54 PM

I found out that people here also run the [color=rgb(90,90,90);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;]NGK [/color]PTR5A[color=rgb(90,90,90);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;]-10' as stocker plug.[/color]

 

[color=rgb(90,90,90);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;]@Tibby: Sorry my bad, the Bosch uses a different heat range number (as in the chart from Chill).[/color]

[color=rgb(90,90,90);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;]Bosch 8 range is a NGK 5 range. I think I'm allright with the NGK 6's grade plugs. See how it goes ;-)[/color]



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Posted 26 February 2016 - 09:04 PM

The standard ones which came with the Saab turbo engines were NGKR pfr6d-10g But are not z22se shaped

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 09:10 PM

From what I've found out, most stock turbocharged engines come with 6 grade plugs as standard and are able to hold on for a few more tuning "stages".

I'll keep the 6 grades and hopefully do some decent learningsessions this weekend. We'll find out if the new plugs are up to it.



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Posted 27 February 2016 - 02:55 PM

Hey Daan The good thing of the Bosches is they have 3 points for giving a spark. ( i know, only one is being used, but in case of pollution there's more change giving a spark) You really do not need fancy panty irridium or something Sparks (where the tips can burn off)....Just keep it simple. grtzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz




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