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[Johnboyhgt]

Got a project in mind - grafting a V6 alfa engine into the back of a VX

 

Does anyone have the subframe width measurements to hand ?

Any advice or previous knowledge is welcome 

 

 

Georgeous engine see below:

 

 

https://upload.wikim...166_3-11_v6.jpg

[Andrew aka Stuwy]

why not go for the compound charged alpha engine?

[Johnboyhgt]

why not go for the compound charged alpha engine?

 

Sorry do you mean supercharged ??   which car is fitted with that ?

 

The busso 2.5 v6 i was thinking about is 175hp standard and a sensible price to buy a full car with loom etc 

[techieboy]

Chuffing heavy, especially with an Alfa gearbox, if they'll even fit.

[Johnboyhgt]

Chuffing heavy, especially with an Alfa gearbox, if they'll even fit.

 

Bit of forum searching suggests the package is around [color=rgb(255,255,255);font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(39,39,39);]136 kg[/color]

 

Sound right ??

[Johnboyhgt]

Correction engine is 170kg 

 

Gearbox 42.99kg         213kg rounded up 

 

 

 

So the middle ground between na and tubby.

[ginek]

Lovely engine, I hope you'll take 3.2 version from the GTA models.

[Johnboyhgt]

Also found this too

 

 

Measurement Value Comments Width across the heads 545mm Taken at the rear of the engine Width across the Cam belt pullies 565mm This is the widest point Length 570mm From the front of the crank pulley to the rear of the clutch cover. Note that the throttle assembly, flexible inlet pipe and air flow sensor will add considerably to this, but is all on top of the engine. Height 680mm Bottom of sump to the top of the plenum Weight of Flywheel 8.0 Kg

 

[Mopeytitan]

Your not allowed to do a V6 conversion because mine will be the only one when its finished

[Andrew aka Stuwy]

 

why not go for the compound charged alpha engine?

  Sorry do you mean supercharged ??   which car is fitted with that ?   The busso 2.5 v6 i was thinking about is 175hp standard and a sensible price to buy a full car with loom etc

 

  nope, but I was thinking of the VW engine (compound charging aka twin charging) http://www.volkswage...logy/petrol/tsi

[Andrew aka Stuwy]

the 1.4 tsi engine has 160 bhp (they claim) so 10 less then your 2.5 v6 and as its boosted will have ample tuning potential

 

[Johnboyhgt]

Your not allowed to do a V6 conversion because mine will be the only one when its finished

 

 

Which engine ??

[Johnboyhgt]

the 1.4 tsi engine has 160 bhp (they claim) so 10 less then your 2.5 v6 and as its boosted will have ample tuning potential

 

 

 

Its about the sound as well as the horses !!

 

Think Ferrari sound versus one of those boring German box sounds 

[Rosssco]

If you just want a V6, then the older GM engines are much easier to install as then the gearbox, clutch, driveshafts etc. etc. are all there...   They aren't particularly impressive by many accounts, but easy enough to get +200bhp (3.0 and 3.2L engines). They weight 160-170Kg. https://en.wikipedia..._V6_engine#3.2

[Johnboyhgt]

If you just want a V6, then the older GM engines are much easier to install as then the gearbox, clutch, driveshafts etc. etc. are all there...   They aren't particularly impressive by many accounts, but easy enough to get +200bhp (3.0 and 3.2L engines). They weight 160-170Kg. https://en.wikipedia..._V6_engine#3.2

 

Hmm interesting idea you got me thinking now   

[Mopeytitan]

Your not allowed to do a V6 conversion because mine will be the only one when its finished

    Which engine ??

A28NET insignia vxr engine with vectra vxr F40 gearbox

[Johnboyhgt]

 

 

Your not allowed to do a V6 conversion because mine will be the only one when its finished  

    Which engine ??

 

A28NET insignia vxr engine with vectra vxr F40 gearbox

 

 

Isnt that engine turbo'd ??

[siztenboots]

yes, 2.8 turbo'd but same thing was also a LP1 Cadillac NA engine https://en.wikipedia...ture_engine#LP1

[Johnboyhgt]

puts my engine choice to shame !!

[Duncan VXR]

3.0 s/c v6 tsfi 420bhp iirc with software, pulley, exhaust and intake Sounds like a v8 and was very impressed. Also very compact and s/c in the v 👍 Even in heavy s5 it went really well.....did I mention the sound 😎 DG