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#21 Andrew aka Stuwy

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 03:30 PM

what about two links and hub carrier bolts?

 

just something to keep in mind they like to break with sticky rubber



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 03:56 PM

What's the emissions like? Does it really need a cat for testing purposes?

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:48 PM

Yes thats the standard stuff - uprated toe links, 10.9 and 12.9 bolts.

You don't want to snap them while doing 200 km/h through Ostkurve (that's a massive 2.4g)

 

Emission class is EURO-5. 

You don't need a Cat at all  :D but what do you mean by "testing purposes"?



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 11:10 AM

 

Emission class is EURO-5. 

You don't need a Cat at all   :D but what do you mean by "testing purposes"?

 

Good to hear on the emissions..

 

The UK MoT requires a cat to be present, or at least something that resembles a cat.. Therefore fitting a decat section that sort of resembles a cat is probably ok for us! Not that you can actually see much with the diffuser / undertrays anyway! :D



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 11:26 AM

Which cars does the A20NFT come in as standard?



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 11:28 AM

Also perfect for in Belgium! A silent high power set up with good emissions.

I know what to do when my engines says 'bey bey'

 



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 11:32 AM

Which cars does the A20NFT come in as standard?

https://en.wikipedia...otec_engine#LDK

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 11:53 AM

Yes and also used here:

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http://www.autobild....7206.html#bild1

 

(Astra J VXR Extreme with 310 HP)

 

 

 

 

 

 

And here:

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http://www.opel-moto...astra-tcr/news/

 

(Astra TCR 330 HP limited due to TCR regulation)

 

Aaand here:

 

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 Astra OPC Cup

 



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 12:21 PM

 

Which cars does the A20NFT come in as standard?

https://en.wikipedia...otec_engine#LDK

 

 

Thanks tibby thumbsup



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 12:36 PM

 

Which cars does the A20NFT come in as standard?

https://en.wikipedia...otec_engine#LDK

 

 

In the UK, I think its just the Astra J VXR, and the Insignia SRI (I think - these only make ~220bhp, so not 100% its exactly the same engine / turbo).

 

Not many used engines about, and those on fleabay are about the same price as new injun!  



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 12:38 PM

Astra J vxr has 275 bhp as standard thumbsup

 

And a stage 1 remap gives 310 bhp :D



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 01:05 PM

In the stock Astra (with its long and thin 2.5" exhaust including 2 Cats!!) your right, it's "only" 280 hp.

 

 

But actually my A20NFT made 315 hp out of the box with the tables untouched.

 

Only differences: I have no balancers, no mechanical waterpump, small aluminium crankpulley, short belt, aluminium Flywheel, bigger intake piping and much bigger and shorter exhaust.

 

Freeing up some extra unicorns mechanically.

 

 

Regarding Emissions: The latest version of the engine is called B20NFT, basicly the same but EURO-6 Emission class.

I don't really know about the differences, or if it's only software update.

Not that interested in emissions because in Germany they don't give you the better emissions class of the engine you put in, but only the best class the vehicle ever had (so they entered EURO-4).


Edited by BadCop, 23 May 2016 - 01:13 PM.


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 04:15 PM

Any details of your intercooling / chargecooling set up? :)



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:27 AM

6" PWR Barrel, the charge air pipe sizes constantly increase from 50mm at the turbocharger outlet to 60mm (connection pipe) up to 76mm IC up to 80mm at the throtle body.

pro alloy pre rad in the front. EWP is a davis craig ewp115 alloy.

 

not the best choice as an IC pump but I had it lying around.



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 04:40 PM

im also planning on running an EWP115 (the plastic one though, not alloy)

 

any reason you think its not a good choice? seems the best high flow, low pressure pump I can find for reasonable money (im currently working in Australia, and the DC EWP pumps are MUCH cheaper here @ ~85 pounds)



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 04:49 PM

I've been waiting for someone to do this engine for a while now. I always thought of it as a good replacement for ours.

The electronics have always scared me off though, and the reason I'd probably chicken out and go with an LEH engine.

 

Same you don't have any build pics. It'd have been really interesting to follow your build.



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:06 PM

What's wiring compatibility like? Or are we talking bespoke loom and interfaces for the clocks?

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:15 PM

Same you don't have any build pics. It'd have been really interesting to follow your build.

 

Dominik is helping with my build, so if youre keen on detailed build pics etc, ill be documenting it as I go in my thread

(youll need to put up with random rants about other crap though, as the whole car is getting rebuilt)  



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:36 PM

I've been waiting for someone to do this engine for a while now. I always thought of it as a good replacement for ours.

The electronics have always scared me off though, and the reason I'd probably chicken out and go with an LEH engine.

 

Same you don't have any build pics. It'd have been really interesting to follow your build.

 

Yep, me also!

Following both builds!



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:38 PM

What's wiring compatibility like? Or are we talking bespoke loom and interfaces for the clocks?

 

The ECU uses CAN (at least, the LNF variant does), which makes it too much of a hassle/problem for a home project guy like me. I'd love to know how to get around this as it'd make a fantastic engine otherwise

 

 

 

Same you don't have any build pics. It'd have been really interesting to follow your build.

 

Dominik is helping with my build, so if youre keen on detailed build pics etc, ill be documenting it as I go in my thread

(youll need to put up with random rants about other crap though, as the whole car is getting rebuilt)  

 

 

Yep, I'm certainly following your project. Hopefully you'll document your ECU solutions _very_ closely ;)






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