Jump to content


Photo

Turbo Cruise Control


  • Please log in to reply
98 replies to this topic

#41 Pidgeon

Pidgeon

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,254 posts

Posted 30 January 2017 - 05:11 PM

Had this done to mine on Saturday by Chris at John Seal.  I cover that here http://www.vx220.org...11#entry1902915

 

Couple of pointers-

 

I bought the spurious Zafira stalk from Ebay.  It doesn't contain the dip/full beam switch.  As the cruise functionality is in the stalk itself, Chris built a hybrid VX/Zafira stalk that works.

 

The Op-com switch is in the VX220 menu (enable/disable cruise toggle?)

 

I supplied a Z20LET loom plug, which Chris removed the connectors from.

 

Other than that, it's as simple as four wires from stalk to ECU and add a live feed.  Works perfectly.  Three buttons, 'R' is 'reduce' or 'resume' depending upon whether cruise is engaged.  The cruise disengages instantly when the clutch is touched (way before drive is interrupted).  The speed build up on 'resume' appears controlled (i.e. the ECU doesn't apply full throttle to increase speed)

 

I've 1000 miles to cover in the next week.  It'll be well used.



#42 Duncan VXR

Duncan VXR

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,278 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lincolnshire
  • Interests:Anything to do with making cars faster and better than the original

Posted 30 January 2017 - 07:09 PM

Great news you got it fitted, sorry I could not free up the time to fit in for you 😞 DG

#43 chris_uk

chris_uk

    I Fancy Joe

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,060 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Leeds UK

Posted 30 January 2017 - 08:52 PM

glad i could be of assistance :) 



#44 aquilaproejct

aquilaproejct

    Super Member

  • PipPip
  • 267 posts
  • Location:Australia

Posted 31 January 2017 - 03:12 AM

Anyone got access to a 2.2 in an Astra / zafira to try and reverse engineer for NA's?

#45 GiGo

GiGo

    .

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,657 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stafford & Dawlish

Posted 01 February 2017 - 05:45 AM

So how much did it cost to installed with all parts etc... And does Chris reckon it can be done to the NA?



#46 ayresyy

ayresyy

    Super Member

  • PipPip
  • 488 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:peterborough

Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:18 AM

 I am sure its possible if the ECU is the same as the Astra. Just a little more faff as you need to add and wire in the clutch switch in addition to the work required on the tubby.



#47 Pidgeon

Pidgeon

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,254 posts

Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:40 AM

Cost wise, £200 labour, £14 stalk and whatever a scrap loom would cost.

 

Oh, and thanks ayresyy for working it out, I owe you a pint.



#48 chris_uk

chris_uk

    I Fancy Joe

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,060 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Leeds UK

Posted 01 February 2017 - 09:52 AM

I'm pretty confident that i can do these on the n/a vx, but i will be doing this on mine first just to make sure. :) a lot of it depends if Opcom has the option to enable the cruise control etc, which im pretty sure it does, i just need to check. will keep you posted.

#49 Mopeytitan

Mopeytitan

    Billy No Mates

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,908 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Yeovil, Somerset
  • Interests:Cars, Motorbikes, well anything mechanical.
    My dogs (love my dogs).
    F1.

Posted 01 February 2017 - 10:05 AM

Might be a silly question but if the clutch switch releases the cruise by cutting the feed to the stalk and the NA doesn't have it would you not be able to just use the brake switch to do the same job?...

#50 techieboy

techieboy

    Supercharger of Doom

  • 22,914 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Bedford

Posted 01 February 2017 - 10:08 AM

Better check with Peter as well in case his firmware alters things on OBDTuner equipped ECU's.



#51 h8ten

h8ten

    Super Duper Member

  • PipPipPip
  • 640 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Crieff
  • Interests:Motoring, 3 cars
    Biking, 1 bike
    PC, 1 big yin an' 1 wee yin.

Posted 01 February 2017 - 09:06 PM

I would go for this at the prices quoted.  I'm currently waiting for an OEM cruise control unit & switch unit for my Elgrand, it's coming from Australia.  No ECU programming needed, just insert a box of tricks into the electronic throttle, two or three wires to the steering wheel and a wire soldered, cost is AUD$730 without the fitting but having seen the instructions it looks straightforward.



#52 chris_uk

chris_uk

    I Fancy Joe

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,060 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Leeds UK

Posted 01 February 2017 - 09:26 PM

Ring / PM Jonnyboy for a quote if you are interested in us doing this.



#53 GiGo

GiGo

    .

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,657 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stafford & Dawlish

Posted 01 February 2017 - 09:28 PM

I'm pretty confident that i can do these on the n/a vx, but i will be doing this on mine first just to make sure. :) a lot of it depends if Opcom has the option to enable the cruise control etc, which im pretty sure it does, i just need to check. will keep you posted.

Sounds good to me, if you want an NA other than your's feel free to come and collect mine, it needs a drive :lol:


Edited by GiGo, 01 February 2017 - 09:29 PM.


#54 ditonics

ditonics

    Turbos aren’t as good as NA’s

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 939 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:turnip land
  • Interests:Marks cat, Joes Mum and Stuarts skills with a wonky erection.

Posted 01 February 2017 - 11:35 PM

Does anyone make alloy stalks that have cruise control too?

#55 Arno

Arno

    Need to get Out More

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,237 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Netherlands

Posted 02 February 2017 - 09:54 AM

AFAIK the N/A 2.2 VX220 ECU software image as standard lacks the cruise-control functions/code. Vauxhall/Opel/GM deleted those for the VX/Speedster use. They never seemed to have bothered with doing the same with the Motronic in the turbo though.

 

If the ECU is re-flashed with an Astra 2.2 image (or an Astra 2.2 ECU fitted) it would/will work with a brake and clutch switch added, but it will throw some (non fatal) fault codes/MIL about some missing interconnects/signals like A/C and power steering.

 

Not sure if Peter has put any work in transplanting the cruise-control code in his OBDTuner codebase.

 

Bye, Arno.



#56 siztenboots

siztenboots

    RaceMode

  • 26,612 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Surrey
  • Interests:french maids

Posted 02 February 2017 - 10:33 AM

yes, on motronic, Arno its all there, including aircon and other systems like auto gearbox active.



#57 harboged

harboged

    Super Member

  • PipPip
  • 392 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Nyköping, Sweden

Posted 02 February 2017 - 09:18 PM

Thanks, where have you found the pins for the ecu connector ?

I took 3 pins out of an old 1.2 corsa loom ecu plug as it has the same connector.

What other car models (besides those with the z20let and the old corsa 1.2) use the same connectors? Anyone know?

#58 siztenboots

siztenboots

    RaceMode

  • 26,612 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Surrey
  • Interests:french maids

Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:05 AM

Thanks, where have you found the pins for the ecu connector ?

I took 3 pins out of an old 1.2 corsa loom ecu plug as it has the same connector.
What other car models (besides those with the z20let and the old corsa 1.2) use the same connectors? Anyone know?
Motronic plugs are generic across cars

#59 harboged

harboged

    Super Member

  • PipPip
  • 392 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Nyköping, Sweden

Posted 03 February 2017 - 10:19 AM

Thanks, where have you found the pins for the ecu connector ?

I took 3 pins out of an old 1.2 corsa loom ecu plug as it has the same connector.

What other car models (besides those with the z20let and the old corsa 1.2) use the same connectors? Anyone know?

Motronic plugs are generic across cars

Ok, great :)

#60 siztenboots

siztenboots

    RaceMode

  • 26,612 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Surrey
  • Interests:french maids

Posted 03 February 2017 - 10:30 AM

having said that , I have been searching for more info on the exact terminals we need to get some stock in. I might end up phoning bosch.

 

probably amphenol or tyco






1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users